[Kubik]

Originally Posted by Velu

Now we know the origin of Shavarma!

What about '' SHASHLIK" ?

Also of a Turkish origin?

Hi Velu,

I was trying to explain that with my post above, but apparently hasn't been clear enough. Except for some very-very nation-specific dishes (baked caterpillars or maybe boiled beetles..? blurppp), majority of food are shared among multiple nations (save some minor changes here'n there like different dressings, spices used etc). They may be well-known by a single name or called different in different countries. Doner, Chevirme, Shawarma, Gyro, what else.. oh also they cook almost the same thing in Mexica. What now? Centuries ago Pancho Villa visited eastern Europe or Mid-East and stole the recipe which has been held like Coca-Cola's secret? Or the other way around? Don't think so. See, when you have a few choices of meat, some spices, some veggies etc, you will end up with similar dishes. Sometimes it's coincidence, sometimes due to actual contact between nations. I see no point in debating "We invented this first" as it's like a pissing contest. But if the subject is "Linguistic" (i.e. "what the origin of that word is") then I'm copying a text from a Russian website. Have no time to translate completely but briefly what author says is that Crimean-Tatars (Another Turkic people) used to call it Shishlik, Ukrainian Cossacks called it "Shashlik" and the word travelled to Russia along with the soldiers returning from Crimean war by mid-XVIII century. But author also adds that even before that date Russians cooked a similar dish named "Verchenoe". Coincidence or not, both words have the same meaning.
Regards

http://www.cooking-book.ru/library/m...eprovsky.shtml
Небольшое отступление. У многих людей, незнакомых с историей, сложилось представление, будто шашлык - какое-то особое блюдо народов Кавказа, свойственное только им. Это совершенно неверно. Точно такой же шашлык можно встретить у многих народов мира. Кстати, само слово "шашлык" вовсе не кавказского происхождения и в русском языке оказалось случайно. Азербайджанцы называют его кебаб, как и все остальные тюркские и арабские народы, грузины - мцвади, армяне - хоровц. Слово "шашлык" придумано украинцами-запорожцами и привезено в Россию русскими солдатами в середине XVIII века после Крымских походов Миниха. Оно является искажением крымско-татарского слова "шиш" - "вертел", "шишлык" - "что-то на вертеле". Шашлык был известен в России и до XVIII века, но назывался "верченое" - мясо, переворачиваемое на вертеле.


P.S. If I'm not wrong you are Indian, right? Gotta admit first: I could have starved to death when I lived in London had there not been Indian and Chinese restaurants.