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Old 14th February 2007, 19:45
andrewblow andrewblow is offline
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Nick, I believe you are simply playing with words here. Rev 13.vs 16-18 says (The beast of vs 11) forced everybody - great and small (etc) to receive a mark on their right hand or forehead, so that no-one could buy or sell anything unless he had the mark, which is THE NAME OF THE BEAST OR THE NUMBER OF HIS NAME. This calls for wisdom - if anyone has insight, let him calculate THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST, for it is man's number and his number is 666".

Having read the Bible very carefully, I do not consider that this passage suggests anything other than the 'mark of the beast' is anything else than 666. If there is another clear interpretation, I'd be pleased to hear it - but so what - whatever the mark is - it is death to the wearer.

The Trinity. Jesus said "I and the Father are ONE. He who has seen me HAS SEEN THE FATHER" - You can't get much clearer than that. The Bible speaks of the SPIRIT OF JESUS that CAME FROM THE FATHER - so there you have all three in one concept.
Nick, The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are ONE GOD - but come to us in 3 different natures as He sees need. Ice, water and steam...and ONE, but 3 distinct natures. Paul says that "IN HIM (Jesus) was ALL THE FULLNESS OF THE GODHEAD". John says in Rev 1, 10 "On the Lord's day I WAS IN THE SPIRIT" - and yet we know that the whole revelation given to John was from jesus - and so I could go on with many examples. Your own statement on the Trinity is conflicting information - you contradict yourself.......one minute God is ONE, but then a family. I don't blame you for this - IT IS A MYSTERY. God says IT'S A MYSTERY, and only those who have the Holy Spirit in them (as true believers ) have any hope of understanding it without confusion. As you have stated you are not a christian, then you cannot expect to get very far into this mystery, without confusion.

Nick - of your own admittance you are not a child of God - a Christian, a true Believer, so WHO you actually communicated with I don't know. All I do know is that God does not deceive - and yet you have been deceived and confused and misled and for that, I cannot accept your witness regarding your communication with anyone you considered 'god' - because God does not tell lies.

Regards,
Andrew
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