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Old 31st May 2003, 02:48
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How the universe began

Continuity is an uninterrupted connection in space, time, operation or development. To have an initial connection or junction, it must have a starting point then continuity. A circle can not be created without a starting point.

Some atomic particles possess vast amounts of energy and energy or life and is a fundamental attribute and function of the universe; it infers that an equivalent quantity of physical energy was expended in creating the atom. In the beginning atoms were created from energy and came into existence from nothingness, which can be vacuum or space that is empty of matter. An explosion from a compression of atoms, caused the “big bang”. This was the beginning of the universe.
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Old 31st May 2003, 09:24
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Re: How the universe began

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Continuity is an uninterrupted connection in space, time, operation or development. To have an initial connection or junction, it must have a starting point then continuity. A circle can not be created without a starting point.

Some atomic particles possess vast amounts of energy and energy or life and is a fundamental attribute and function of the universe; it infers that an equivalent quantity of physical energy was expended in creating the atom. In the beginning atoms were created from energy and came into existence from nothingness, which can be vacuum or space that is empty of matter. An explosion from a compression of atoms, caused the “big bang”. This was the beginning of the universe.
"created from energy and came into existence from nothingness" is not a creation but a transformation, energy is not nothingness.
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Old 8th June 2003, 13:44
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Please peruse the Philosophy of the Teachings of Islam.

http://www.alislam.org/books/philosophy/index.html

In The Philosophy of the Oaths of the Holy Quran paragraph 7 & 8 state:

As six hundred years had passed after the time of Jesus, and no recipient of revelation had appeared during the interval. The whole world had been corrupted. The history of every country shows that before the advent of the Holy Prophet, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, falsehood had become current throughout the world. Why did this happen? This happened because divine revelation had been held back for a long time and the kingdom of heaven had fallen into the hands of human reason alone. No one is unaware of the corruption in which the people were involved by following defective reason. Thus when the rain of revelation did not descend for a period, the water of reason dried up.

So in these oaths God Almighty draws attention to this firm and eternal law of nature and calls for reflection upon it that all the vegetation of the earth depends upon the water of heaven. Thus, for the hidden law that governs divine revelation the obvious law of nature is a witness. Then try to derive benefit from the testimony of this witness and do not make reason alone your guide, for it is not a water that can continue without heavenly water. As it is a characteristic of heavenly water that it pulls up the water of all the wells, whether it falls directly into a well or not, in the same way, when a recipient of divine revelation appears in the world then, whether a wise person follows him or not, reason is illumined and clarified to a degree not witnessed before. People begin to search for the truth and their faculty of reflection is stirred up from the unseen. Thus, all this upsurge of reason and of the heart is initiated by the blessed advent of the recipient of divine revelation and the waters of the earth are pulled up by it. So, when you find that everyone has started a search for religion and an upsurge has stirred earthly waters, then rise up and be warned and know for certain that heavy rain has fallen from heaven and that the water of divine revelation has fallen upon a human heart.

Bahaism, Sikhism and the Ahmadiyya Muslim Communities could combine their resources and be the leaders of a new vision of unity. Yet it is ironic that these three faiths who have been founded by the latest messengers of God battle amongst themselves for the right to be the correct one.

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Old 8th June 2003, 18:52
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Please peruse the Philosophy of the Teachings of Islam.

http://www.alislam.org/books/philosophy/index.html

In The Philosophy of the Oaths of the Holy Quran paragraph 7 & 8 state:

As six hundred years had passed after the time of Jesus, and no recipient of revelation had appeared during the interval. The whole world had been corrupted. The history of every country shows that before the advent of the Holy Prophet, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, falsehood had become current throughout the world. Why did this happen? This happened because divine revelation had been held back for a long time and the kingdom of heaven had fallen into the hands of human reason alone. No one is unaware of the corruption in which the people were involved by following defective reason. Thus when the rain of revelation did not descend for a period, the water of reason dried up.


Power corrupts, religion is power, thus religion corrupts.
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