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Old 1st March 2007, 19:28
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The Communists and Socialists thoroughly infiltrated the USA goverment by the end of the 1930s. The USA
military and all its versions of the GRU were thoroughly infiltrated also, and Moscow sent millions of Soviets and others here as spies or sleepers during the cold war. Is the USA currant Defense secretary a "Comrad"?
If missles are being put in eastern countries, it is so shady charactors in the Defense Industry can make more millions by ripping off the US taxpayers with unnessary weapon purchases. There is no real threat of war with Russia, everyone in the USA Goverment are Comrads.
I sent your message to the FBI. They can trace you and find out everything about you. You are on their file now.
It feels great to help with national security.
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Old 2nd March 2007, 13:07
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Not if they don't have to.
America will never trust Russia, period. It was Russians' own fault if they trusted America.
Any country that uses nuclear weapon on America will be wiped out from the face of this earth.
It's only a matter of time before we finish off Russia.
The world's a changing place, what you're talking about's never going to materialize. At the moment the US can't attack Russia without the risk of getting nuked itself what with the Topol M's and all. Maybe some of them will go FUBAR and have to be self destructed but a good portion is sure to reach US soil and wreak havoc. The hyped up son of starwars missile defense system is a joke at this stage, it's failed most of the triels it's gone through so far. Thing is even though Putin and co are acting nervous at the moment I guess they realize that in its current state the son of star wars is in no shape to pose any real threat to Russia. Of course it may be improved in the future but Russia won't be sitting on its hands either and neither will countries like Iran. Eventually al quaida or some other US hating terrorist group will get their hands on a bunch of nuke charges, attach cell phone activated detonators to them and place them at key locations all over the US and then they will call the US president and tell him that unless he(or maybe by that time it will be a she) dances to their tune there's gonna be a big boom.
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Old 2nd March 2007, 13:08
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Hehe Kolya.

Have you tought that poljaks do not care about Russia likings? They WANT this radar and missile stations in teir country. Where do you take right to tell that you dont allow this? Do you really think that you some kind of super power to demand this? Ehh . . .
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Old 2nd March 2007, 15:51
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Hehe Kolya.

Have you tought that poljaks do not care about Russia likings? They WANT this radar and missile stations in teir country. Where do you take right to tell that you dont allow this? Do you really think that you some kind of super power to demand this? Ehh . . .
last I head polls indicated that the majority of poles do not support the placement of the missile defence radar stations and intercepts in their country, it's those evil twins that are currently calling the shots in Warsaw that are so overeager to lick US ass.
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Old 4th March 2007, 00:10
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Hehe Kolya.

Have you tought that poljaks do not care about Russia likings? They WANT this radar and missile stations in teir country. Where do you take right to tell that you dont allow this? Do you really think that you some kind of super power to demand this? Ehh . . .

USA is far away from Poland. And perhaps a time will come when USA will have its hands full with China and will loose it's interest in Europe. And if Poland doesn't maintain good relations with its immediate neighbors such as Germany and Russia, then it may fall on hard times as it did more than once in its historical past.

Being allied with far away countries is no guarantee of peace and security. Before World War II, Poland was allied with France and Great Britain. And guess what, those far away allies abandoned Poland when it became in their interest to maintain good relations with USSR.

It's the immediate neighbors who matter the most in the long run. And keeping good relations with the them is the best guarantee of peace and security.
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Old 5th March 2007, 14:21
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You right about peace and security, but what to do then when neighbours do not want peaceful relations and try always interfere other countrys internal politics as Russia usually does?
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Old 5th March 2007, 23:20
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USA is far away from Poland. And perhaps a time will come when USA will have its hands full with China and will loose it's interest in Europe. And if Poland doesn't maintain good relations with its immediate neighbors such as Germany and Russia, then it may fall on hard times as it did more than once in its historical past.

Being allied with far away countries is no guarantee of peace and security. Before World War II, Poland was allied with France and Great Britain. And guess what, those far away allies abandoned Poland when it became in their interest to maintain good relations with USSR.

It's the immediate neighbors who matter the most in the long run. And keeping good relations with the them is the best guarantee of peace and security.
What you are doing is, behind China's back, pointing your finger at China and hope the U.S. will focus its crosshair on China and not Russia. LOL It's just too funny.

Seriously, your threat against Poland is hollow. Just like Germany, Poland is a memeber of NATO and EU. Poland has nothing to fear from Russia because Poles know Russia speaks loudly but Russia carries a pretty small stick. LOL

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Just last month Russian Air Force commander Col.-Gen. Vladimir Mikhailov stunned the Kremlin establishment with a blunt speech. Of the 11,000 young men drafted into the Air Force in 2006, it concluded, more than 30 percent were "mentally unstable." An additional 10 percent suffered from drug or alcohol problems, while a further 15 percent were deemed ill or malnourished. A quarter of Mikhailov's soldiers never knew their fathers, 3 percent never knew their mothers and 3 percent were orphans. "Many draftees cannot read or write properly," says Ivashov, acknowledging the problems cited by Mikhailov. Many recruits barely know how to drive a car, let alone a sophisticated tank, he adds. "It is ridiculous that we let ignorant soldiers use a T-90 that costs $1 million after only six months of training."

Consider another statistic: that some 89 percent of Russian youths escape the draft, often by paying bribes to recruiting officers or the doctors who certify them for service. Thus only the poorest and the worst-educated end up actually enlisting. "By drafting the dregs of society, we create an illusion that all is well in the military," argues former deputy commander of Russian ground forces Col.-Gen. Eduard Vorobyov.

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