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[Dr_Woland]

Hi Gene

I think the Russians badly want to be taken seriously as a member of the world community - by its other members. Making peace where they are able to, would be one way in which they can regain membership of the world community.

NATO goofed badly when they did that document-switch at Rambouillet. The peace-deal had been set-up by Evgeny Primakov, at that time Russia's Foreign Minister, but by the time they sat down to the table to discuss, he was already Prime Minister.

NATO pulled the document he'd brokered with Milosevic, and put a different document on the table - one that NO nation would sign. Instead, the Serbs walked-off furious... they had been promised a deal, but found a different document waiting for them.

Primakov was furious too - he had worked tirelessly for two months to broker that peace with Milosevic. But a Russian-brokered peace wasn't going to help Bill Clinton - he needed a war against a "commie" which he could "win within three days of bombing", as his advisors had promised him as a way of diverting attention from the Lewinsky affair.

Instead of going home to Russia as the proud saviour of the Kosovo Crisis, Primakov gained nothing from this. It screwed his Presidential ambitions in Russia, and instead, Putin became first PM, then President.

Instead of having Primakov - a career diplomat with a known friendly attitude to the West and to the Arabic countries, Russia acquired Putin as PM - a former KGB operative.

Consider carefully what NATO did in Kosova. Nothing, is the answer. They did NOTHING. They bombed SERBIA, not Kosova. They sent NO aid to Kosova. They did NOTHING for the refugees. And when they won, they left Kosova with its problems and went home. This was not a war about Kosova, it was a war against Milosevic. Milosevic's home was declared a "legitimate military target". They blew up a civilian train on a bridge.

Peace was on the table, but the USA THREW THAT PEACE AWAY because it suited President William Jefferson Clinton to have a WAR instead. Damn peace, if the Russians negotiated it!

Dr W.

The CHOICES are as follows:

1.Israel abides by the UN resolutions that created Israel and RESOLUTIONS 242 and 338 having to do with land taken by force. Israel must recognize the state of PALESTINE with a part of Jerusalem as it's CAPITOL.

2.Or,- Israel will live in TERROR until every Palestinian is killed. The people in other countries are not going to tolerate
the Apartheid the Palestinians are subjected to. Other countries are not going to tolerate the wholesale killing of the Palestinians.

The only real choice is to make PEACE and stop acting like a ROUGE NATION.

[gene_parrish]

Hello Dr Woland,
I feel that you speak the truth. Nato wanted to attack serbia because of hate and just to be macho. They cared nothing for the Albanians but they provided the excuse to beat up a commie nation that would not bow, bend or heel. The Russians took away their excuse to attack, but Nato was primed and ready to go and no peace piece of paper was going to stop them. Hitler’s excuse for attacking his neighbors was that they were mistreating their German citizens. After all man is the killer ape whether he is a storm trooper or church clergy. Your Tony Blair was for the war more than anybody. He was almost convincing that he was defending the weak from the strong. But in reality he was the strong attacking the weak.

hello Ungaro,
You sound like a man with hate in his heart and you are ready to die killing the Jew gangsters. I believe that it was this fanatic attitude that let you conquer so much of the world. But man desires to be free from body and mind control. The only people able to survive in the muslim world is the very strong . expamle: Saddam Hussin and Israel. I compare the two only because they are very strong. But Israel is humane; they seem to only defend themselves. They don’t just go out and try to couquer new lands.
The Israels took land when they were attacked and they kept some of that land in order to keep their citizens safe. They have been giving land for peace for years but it seems that the Palastines will not be happy until the last Iraele is dead or gone to join Moses.
Bear in mind that this is only the way I see things from sunny Florida while I wait for the news of my next president.
Gene

Greetings Gene,

I hate nobody. I just tell the truth, without
any religious bullsh.t.

The Truth is that Isarel is a ROUGE nation.
They do not have a CONSTITUTION. They have no CIVIL RIGHTS. They subject the ARABS to APARTHIED. They have not only murdered the
ARAB CHILDREN and the ELDERLY, they also murdered US MILITARY PERSONEL on the USS LIBERTY. They have SPIED on the US. They refuse to live by the UN CHARTER that created the STATE of ISRAEL. They refuse to
comply with UN Charters 242 and 338. On and on and on.

What else would you like to know?

Anybody else who might want to know more about the OUTLAW actions of the STATE of ISRAEL, go to ussliberty.com

[Dr_Woland]

Hi Gene

I'm afraid I agree with you completely - Tony Blair was completely spineless in support of the US Policy in Kosova. Moreover, the UK took a huge number of refugees in during the war.

And what do we find now?

1) The UN peacekeepers have now asked the Serbs to help them maintain the peace, as they have realised that the Kosovan Albanians are a group of armed thugs with terrorist weapons (ie exactly what Milosevic said they were)

2) The "refugees" which Britain took-in turn-out to be a collection of Albanians. Not Kosovans - I mean they're from the country of Albania, posing as Kosovans who had lost their papers. And they are not just any-old Albanians - they are the most vicious crooks in the country. London's police have reported that both the narcotics and prostitution rackets in London have been taken-over by the Albanian Mafia - who are much, much more vicious than the criminal gangs who previously controlled these activities.

As for any hope that they might go home now that the war's over.... y'might as well spit in the wind.

This is what happens when you get dumb politicians being advised by dumber advisors, messing in the internal affairs of countries they fundamentally don't understand, and hadn't even heard of until the conflict started.

Dr W.

Greetings Gene,

We have had our differences. I particularly remember Taiwan, and there were other issues.

On Kosovo, I have to agree with you. One thing that nobody is talking about is ALLIANCE between Russia, Yugoslavia and Belorussia. They were going to form a Military and Economic and Cultural Alliance.
This Alliance was to be Antiodote for Nato.
Just about the time they were ready to finalize the Alliance, all the Hell broke loose.

What do you think?

On the subject of Israel, please research the information I gave you. I am interested to see how it might effect your attitude about Israel.

Good Luck

[Nonson]

Gene, check under CURRENT EVENTS: GWB is coming. Peace

[This message has been edited by Nonson (edited 03 December 2000).]