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Old 26th May 2003, 16:05
ALOHA ALOHA is offline
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Hi!
I'm going to visit America next year (to work), so I need a friend with advice about it!
PLEASE, write to me.
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Old 27th May 2003, 23:32
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I have driven through 45 of the lower 48 States, maybe I can help in some way. What is it you want to know?
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Old 29th May 2003, 20:19
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[quote]Originally posted by LeavinTown
Hi!
Thanks for your reply. Actually, I didn’t even expect it so fast...
Well
You know, there are numerous firms here (in Russia) which offer a job for students in summer. Those young men, who wants to spend about four months in America have to pay 1200$. Then they get something like a working visa and, of course, a job. It is usually: waiter, receptionist and other unskilled laborer. The interest for all of us in this offer is that we can work off spent money (1200$) and earn another three-four thousand $.
That would be enough for the Russian student to live the whole year without problems. And this sum is enough to open own business...

So I need you to tell me (if you can!) where is the best place (state) in America for me. Where can I earn more doing this job. Where is the cheapest dwelling and so on.

CAN YOU HELP ME?
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Old 29th May 2003, 22:37
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Most of the East Coast states (if I remember correctly) are pretty decent with cost of living, etc. Just be wary of the larger cities, like New York City..

Most of the Southern states are good too, I live in Fayetteville (Arkansas) and it's not a very expensive place, yet you have the University of Arkansas (*in Fayetteville* an excellent school, and I'm a sophomore there) which loves to bilk you out of $12,400 a year.

I remember something on http://www.msn.com that I saw that profiled the Top 10 Cheapest states, try looking at that, or just do a search. Hope this helps ya!
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Old 30th May 2003, 00:31
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Hey Alex,
Unlike dixie_doll I think a larger city like New York or LA would let you belnd in better have higher wages so you get better tipps. You might also keep in mind northern states are more like your own climate whereas southern states in summer are a lot warmer and could be verry uncomfortable and you wouldn't need cloths so much different. The cost of living in a larger northern city will be higher but the better wages should make up the difference. Also a larger city is more apt to have a rapid transcit system so no need of the expence of a car, tax title tag, and then insurance and of course a license.
If several million people in a small place with a high crime rate is not what you had in mind at all maybe this would feel more at ease [www.startribune.com] check this news paper site it is from Minneapolis Minnesota. The climate should be comfortable to you. Income there is rather good and living evpences in summer are reasonable. In the classified section maybe you can find a summer resort on one of the lakes and get a good job with living quarters.
Don't you have to have a job lined up before you can get a work visa?
Something else comes to mind, where people go and spend a lot of money (good for waiters) in the summer. Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Much more rural setting if your interested in this place and have trouble getting information yell at me and I will see what I can come up with.
Has any of this helped?
Dave

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Old 30th May 2003, 00:42
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Well, the things I've been told about apartment rent prices (and the cost of living in general) in New York City are pretty awful. And even if somebody makes good tips, I don't really think it would defer it that much. Such as a one bedroom going for about $950 a month (coming from a friend who lives there).. But, opinions are opinions.
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Old 3rd June 2003, 10:32
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Cheap rents abound in city, census says
Dayton among nation’s cheapest places to reside

By Mara Lee
e-mail address: mara_lee@coxohio.com
Dayton Daily News

Those Mead workers who moved to Stamford, Conn., after last year’s merger had to be hating life when they looked for a place to live.

Dayton is one of the nation’s cheapest urban rental markets, with a midpoint price of rent and utilities of about $450; Stamford compares with $1,000, the highest on the East Coast.

The figures come from the U.S. Census’ survey of one in six households in 2000.

The Midwest has the cheapest apartments in the nation, at $533 a month, and Dayton’s cheaper still, by about $80.

Dayton’s companions in the bottom 10 are other rustbelt cities — Cincinnati, St. Louis and Erie, Pa. — a couple of southern cities, Louisville and Birmingham; and two Texas cities on the Mexico border, Brownsville and Laredo.

Cities like Dayton and St. Louis have stagnant economies because they lost so many higher-wage industrial jobs, and they don’t have the educational resources of cities that forged into the knowledge economy, such as San Jose, Calif., in the top 10 rental costs list.

Without strong growth, rustbelt cities haven’t been magnets for immigration. Immigrants make up most of the population growth in the United States. Chicago, with the highest rents in the Midwest, has gained population slightly because Mexican immigrants have moved there in large numbers.

It’s supply and demand.

Aaron Scott lives in Dayton, near Harrison Twp., in one of the complexes along Riverside Drive. He pays $435 for a one-bedroom apartment. (The average rent is about $440 for all sizes of apartments and houses — efficiencies through four bedrooms — advertised in Dayton last week.)

Scott, who lives on disability payments, said he thinks his rent is reasonable, and he likes where he lives.

He said Dayton is so cheap because the job market can’t support higher rents.

Income figures support his theory.

In Stamford, where the median, or mid-point, house goes for $362,000, 42 percent of workers are professionals, many commuting to New York City. In Dayton, it’s 25 percent. Half of the households in Stamford earn more than $60,500, more than twice Dayton’s $27,000 wage median.

Aaron Sorrell, a senior community development specialist for the city of Dayton, said the cost of renting an apartment in Dayton has dropped since 1970 when adjusted for inflation, from $464 a month in 1970 to $433 a month now.

Whether that is good or bad depends on which side of the issue you are on, Sorrell said.

“If you’re a renter, you’re spending a lot less on your housing," he said "But if you’re a developer, and you haven’t seen real rental rates grow since 1970, you don’t have much of an incentive to invest here.”

Sorrell said developers also are pinched by the city’s declining population.

“Owners can’t really raise the rents tremendously without worrying about vacancies,” he said.

Dayton’s population dropped by about 77,000 people since 1970, to about 156,000.

Steven Clotfelter feels he benefits from Dayton’s low rents. Clotfelter, 47, lives in the downtown complex the Landing, where he pays $625 a month for a 962-square-foot apartment. In seven years, his rent has gone up every other year by $20.

Many houses in Dayton carry lower mortgage payments than Clotfelter’s rent, but he loves the atmosphere and the amenities — a caterer is available in-house twice a week, for instance. He said spending so little of his salary as a surgical scrub tech means he has more to spend on eating out.

He has a friend in Manhattan who has about 700 square feet and pays more than $1,500 in rent.

"They’re just amazed at what I pay, and I’m just screaming I pay that much," he said.


Contact Mara Lee at 225-2420 or mara_lee@coxohio.com. Staff writer Jim Bebbington contributed to this report.

[From the Dayton Daily News: 06.02.2003]
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