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Old 15th October 2002, 18:45
bisserk bisserk is offline
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communism cannot be achieved without fascism

nazism is communism

USSR= one race of lemmings working at factory with a number

Nazi Germany = one race of lemmings working at factory with a number

USSR racial plan is to suberse and eliminate ethnic and races in USSR, same as nazism

USSR expanded by supporting national communist revolutions world wide

Nazis expanded by military

You see not much difference between stalin and hitler

Germany vs USSR war was difference of communist ideology

If USSR and China went to war in 1969, the west would still act like the same vultures as in 1939

Capitalism is the true fascism, without capitalism and elitism, the elites cannot have a castle and a rollys royce with 120 servants. It is simply againts their very existance to even support hitler.
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Old 16th October 2002, 02:25
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Well... Actually, it is not a new idea that there was a lot in common between Hitler´s and Stalin´s regimes.
Communsm cant be achieved without fashism? Probably. Actually nobody need it, communism I mean. Do anybody? From previous looks like somebody think that Stalin won the ww2. What do you guys think about the the Suvorov´s version. That Stalin also was preper to attack Germany. And as far as he didnt think about the defence he had lost the beginning of the war?
As to me I really think that the develope of the millitary power is an essencial feature of such kind a totalitar regimes, but still a democratic countries with a market economy could be very flexible and i believe they could resist. And actually I see the events as following - Stalin´s lost in the beginning of the war and then later Zhukov´s victory. Sorry I dont know any battle that Stalin won. Well... he created the totalitar military society that have to had a power for war, and his lost are even more impressive then. I think that even if Russia lost the US finally could develope its military power enough to win alone. We could see that before the war it almost had no military power and it became really strong after the ww2. I dont insist, just a version to discuss...
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Old 17th October 2002, 20:34
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Stalin had nothing but problems in Russia when he took over the only way he stayed in power was because of WW2 the Soviet leaders knew that if thier was another civil war in Russia, Russia would not exist for long.........
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Old 17th October 2002, 20:41
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russian is a ethnicity, you mean that the USSR would not exist, but stalin died in 1953, he didn'ts stay in power for too long after WW2.

Russia is a federation, but USSR eliminated most ethnic minorities in Russia in the name of communism. USSR = Nazi Germany, hitler wanted to eliminate ethnic minorities and communinize race...stalin did the same thing.
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Old 18th October 2002, 17:29
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Quote:
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russian is a ethnicity, you mean that the USSR would not exist, but stalin died in 1953, he didn'ts stay in power for too long after WW2.

Russia is a federation, but USSR eliminated most ethnic minorities in Russia in the name of communism. USSR = Nazi Germany, hitler wanted to eliminate ethnic minorities and communinize race...stalin did the same thing.
Ah! Now I`v got your point! Well... I would say... yes ... and no. One of the communist idea if you still remember was to create a new ethnicfree person, so called soviet person, neither russian nor georgian nor ukranian... . So this politics was directed against every nation, well, minorities were just the first victims easy meat. Hitler had an idea that a certain race has more rights then the others. But the result was similar. Well.. unfortunatly in the modern society similar things occures just economically. You couldnt enter university in Moscow if you didnt know russian? Try to enter university in US if you dont know english. But sure it is not the same as Stalin`s politics! And I am totally agree that the attitude to Stalin should be the same as to Hitler.
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Old 21st October 2002, 02:41
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Stalin wasn't even a Russian, and your formula shuould be Stalinism=Nazism, in that case it would more or less be fair, otherwise you are showing off ignorance.
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Old 22nd October 2002, 20:42
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I disagree Stalinism is differate for the Nazi way......
that is the reason for the Marxists to be put in jail and killed because they were differant.......what now bit*h
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