Let's talk about the Crimean tatar issue....

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If there was no genocide against turks what happened to the original mongols and kazaks of urkraine?!!!!!!

if you ask what we want its simple...start by leaving chechnya...


but since you are in canada, you probably glad that we are not raping you haha

[Andrej_]

I may be in Canada, but I did grow up in Russia in the 90's and I was there for the first Chechen war, start to finish. In any case the only whos getting raped are Chechen whores, funny how their population rose amid all this 'Genocidal warfare', I see our boys planted their seed well.

In any case, youre talking about Crimean Tatars I assume, did I ever deny their death ? Then what do you call the 20 million people that parished within the framework of Stalin's Great Purges ? A genocide has to be directed by one party against the other. Most Turks say that there was no 'Armenian Genocide' because both Turks and Armenians died, then how is this different ? You are probably clueless on Stalins terror beyond crimes against Turks. Ask anyone who was around in the 30's and the 40's. My grandma used to tell me some fuc'ked up shi't. They just come and pick your parents up at 1 am in the morning, in Milk vans, thats the last time you would see them. Were talking millions.
To name one estimate: 61.911 million Soviet casualties, everyone met their end one way or the other. Some got deported and died on the way, others visited the luxury Siberian Gulags, etc, etc...

As for 'genocide' in Chechnya, you better check yourself, go look at latest Census results, that reveal 1.1 million people within the Republic, almost matching pre-war (1989) census results, that considering there are several hundred thousand Chechen refugees scattered thoughout the country. Numbers don't add up for anyting that can be called a genocide, that or Chechens multiply like cockroaches, in either case, a genocide is of something authentic, not a replenishble resource ;)

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i can see how you are planting your seed ...in canada...hahaha you wouldnt last 3 sec in chechnia boy

[Andrej_]

Laf, stop calling me son, tleast my shi't still functions, lay off. I wouldn't last a second in Chechnya ? Well who in his right mind would want to go there on his own will ? Aside from that, you don't even fuc'king know me. 99% of the people on these forums are either deraged nationalist nerds who're all talk, or bookwarms who will never make a difference. Ive been through more shi't then youll ever know. Juvie may not be a warzone, but its more then most of you will ever see. At 17, I see this world clearer then you do at 45. You defy the truth, you represent the deraged minority that gets a bullet in its teeth for spreading an irrelevant mix of history and prejudice. Tell me this, what are you doing on this forum if you are so obviously full of prejudice against its very existance and purpouse ? Whenever Tebriz-Will-Rise or you post something, I ask myself, when will they finally tell me something I don't know...

Get this, I take pride in being a genocidal colonist with Imperial ambitions, and in all likeliness at 17, am surelly responsible for your uncles deportation and your mothers assimilation, now what the fuc'k are you gonna do about it bitc'h ?

[NOGAY]

andrej idiot female dog
who gives a fyck whether you kill your own people or not? even when you raped your own mom I didnt give a **** and I pissed on your mom after you left her.

the thing you have to get into your brainless head is you didnt have any right to do anything to Qirim Tatars
but I agree with you in stg. Its a dog eat dog world and its not my style to talk about what has been done to Qirim Tatars. However I am delighted to inform you that the entire southern Dagestan is cleansed from russian filth between 1991-2000. When I was studying in highschool in Maxachkala while you were raping your own mom in canada, I personally digged some holes on some russian dogs and watched their sisters and moms crying. In Maxachkala Kumuks and Azeris were too light to those garbages and we Nogais did what has to be done. In Tatarstan the russian population is scared to death when a Tatar gang decides to **** one of them. well you know you dont need a reason to **** a russian they can be screwed only because of being a stinky russian. for example in Kizilyar we had every right to prevent them from taking the public transportation vehicles because we didnt want them to stink our air and finally what happened?? all them left ...

but there are more Azeris in Moscow than there are in Baku and there are more Tatars in Moscow than there are in entire Qirim. so while you are leaving russia in pain nagging and crying we are conquering it, dont you still see that my b1tch?? you will be seeking your minority rights in 10 years.

and yes if you want to give a try you can anytime go visit Kizilyar and taste some Tatar sausage...

PS: give a pair of sucks and fu<k a russian slut ....

[Tebriz-will-Rise]

Originally posted by Andrej_ ]

Very sad, I see this topic is of special interest to you, it itches so badly eh ?

It was the Crimean holocaust. For the sake of humanity, of course it itches to see racist people such as yourself who try to justify the Crimean Holocaust.

Well heres the thing, Crimea was a wedding gift in a broken marrige, but Russia never got the gift back, in any case...

There you go again, Andre. So the holocaust was a "marriage"? Why are you itching so badly to justify the Crimean Tatar holocaust?

The thing is, Ukraine is only acting in its own interest, just as Russia, do you seriously fail to understand why Russia would want to keep the Tatars out ?

I don't see how Ukraine is acting only in it's own interest. Even if they are good on them. They're own interests hasn't resulted in a Holocaust of an entire but it's nice to see you admit to the Crimean holocaust in that sentence

Let me break one thing to you though, lifes a bitc'h, you can't make me care about the Crimean Tatars, not my blood, I hope you understand.

I understand imperialists very well. I grew up with them. I don't expect you to care for the holocaust you still back up today but an apology would be nice as well as letting the deported Crimeans back home. You can't expect to reason with an imperialist however, especially not an ethnic cleansing nazi one.

Isn't it odd, Andre? This is the russian logic that has brainwashed the majority of Russians we did not do it, the communists did it's not hard to see, your ancestors felt like shhit, they wanted to feel special so they let the commies take power to make them feel special for a short period of time. When they took power, conducted ethnic cleansing, then it wasn't you guys faults, right?

I feel sorry for you loss, I really do, but what the fuc'k do you want from me ?

and all this time I was here thinking Andre doesn't care because it's not in his "blood". I wonder where I got that idea from?!

In all likelyhood I lost more relatives to the Soviets then any Tatar

bullshhit, according to the Russian statistics, Russians are well over 80% of the Russian Federation (empire)'s population. 90% of this so called "Russian federation" is foreign land and home to non-Russians. But nice try, wise guy.

now whos going to pay my reparations ?

who's going to pay the Crimean reparation? why not let them return home rather than play imperial games on Russianizind their land? I thought this thread was about the Crimean issue Andre. Are we getting off topic here? You want people to feel sorry for the Russian "loss" after all the ethnic cleansing holocausts?

Your a Turk, you should know, think... 'Armenian Genocide'...

That's right, I'm a Turk from Azerbaijan. Your imperial army conducted an Azeri holocaust in Karabakh, there were 1 million Azeri Turks deported. Now I ask you what's this junk about the "Armenian Holocaust"?

Andre, did you know that during the fictious "Armenian Genocide" there was a state of Armenia at war with Turkey in world war I? It's also still there Can you please explain to me when this genocide took place? On the other hand the Crimeans had no state. once again Andre you are getting off topic.

2 million turks died, 1.5 million Armenians died.

After the Karabak war there are no Azeris in Armenia, not a single one. there are however Armenians in Azerbaijan and Turkey.

get your facts straight baldie.

[Andrej_]

Dear NOGAY,

I will once again inform you that I sincerely don't give a fuc'k about the fate of such worthless vermin as Tatars, I think history has shown what we do with filthy scumm as such, you're next. Think of it as population control if you wish, much like cockroaches they tend to multiply faster then we can exterminate them, therefore I see them as a renewable resource and much better used for target practice. B.T.W. My mother sends her best. I see you have your future planed out, the only problem is, youre more likely to get jumped by 10 nazi skinheads before you even touch a white man. Even though I do not support the idea of neo-Nazis, I must admit they do serve a very usefull purpouse. Yes, I will agree with you though, there are more Azeris in Moscow, but that only shows their desparation and inability to sell watermelons in their native homeland. Azerbaijan's gross domestic product is a mere 8% of what the city of Moscow alone is worth, quite sad, we don't have to kill Azeris, we own them as it is.

P.S. Stop lying you know you chernozopiye ain't got no fuc'king socks.