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Old 13th April 2003, 22:14
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and also the fight against the japanese, the british and australians were fighting land and see battles in asia and the pacific since 42, the pacific fleet alone had 350 ships, no idea how big the fleet around asia was.

so how much of an impact did the british have in that area ?


The Royal Navy didn't have a great impact in the war in the far east.This was due to a failure in strategic planning prior to the war where it was not envisaged that Britain would have to fight an enemy in both the west and the east.They had a "one hemisphere navy" which was unable to devote resources to fighting the Japanese while engaging the main threat Germany.Also after the fall of Singapore in 1942 the British were left without a main naval base in the far east which restricted the scope of naval operations.The most important land campaign which the British fought in the east was in Burma.After initial setbacks the British and empire troops completely defeated the Japanese and at the final major battle of Kohima virtually an entire Japanese army of 90 000 men was annihalated.Some of the British tactics in asia were innovative and especially the Chindit operations where several thousand troops were parachuted into enemy territory where bases and airstrips were built.This disrupted Japanese supply lines to such an extent that they had no choice but to sacrifice thousands of troops in an attempt to destroy these bases.
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Old 14th April 2003, 01:44
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Hello Jimjim, Hello Trapper

WW2 was started by Germany when it attacked Poland on Sept 1, 1939.

And the USSR attacked Poland a week later.O,I forgot,sorry,Voro,it's a sudden news for you,they don't teach that in commi high school.
You right Ahmed, they "forget" to tell it in highschool

But education and good learning habit does't stop at the age eighteen. Does it?

What did they teach in the anti Russian Tatar school?

Ask Andy-J, who's knowledge of history I respect very much, what was the Curson - Line, where the Polish-SU border was drawn after WW2? He would know that.
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Old 14th April 2003, 02:51
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Poor Voro...

So,in your litlle mind,Soviet Union didn't attack Poland? Tsk,tsk,tsk...poor litlle Voro...the whole world is against him.
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Old 14th April 2003, 03:09
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So,in your litlle mind,Soviet Union didn't attack Poland? Tsk,tsk,tsk...poor litlle Voro...the whole world is against him.
Ahmed wants to learn.....

WW2 started when Germany invaded Poland on Sept.1 th, 1939. Great Britain and France declared war on Germany shorthly after. Hitler knew that if he had invaded Poland, the allies would have declared war on Germany. That's why WW2 started on Sept.1 th, 1939.
Is it so hard to understand?
How did they teach it to you in the anti Russian Tatar school where you graduated (or not)from?
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Old 14th April 2003, 13:29
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Russian troops only advanced as far as the Curzon line which marked the Polish border after world war I.They only retook territory which Russia had ceded to Poland after the war of 1921.
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Old 15th April 2003, 01:42
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Russian troops only advanced as far as the Curzon line which marked the Polish border after world war I.They only retook territory which Russia had ceded to Poland after the war of 1921.
Thank You Sir,

I knew that I always could count on Andy-J. He knows...
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Old 16th April 2003, 19:49
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Is retaking just?

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Russian troops only advanced as far as the Curzon line which marked the Polish border after world war I.They only retook territory which Russia had ceded to Poland after the war of 1921.
The above is inaccurate and simplified, to say the least. The process of making borders in Versailles took a lot of time and Lord Curzon's proposal was just a starting point and never a final conclusion.
The Soviet propagandists have been working very hard to convince the civilised world that "le batard du Versailles" (read Poland) does not deserve the very existence.
Maybe the most important is not what the Soviets did in 1939 but how they did it. It was so typical, horrible Soviet style of killing and displacing millions of innocent people without any apparent reason. Some disputants in the Ukrainian forum tried to compare it with the Polish action of taking part in dismembering Chechoslovakia in 1938. What a lame comparison! Poland took a territory of today's Luxemborg and, although it was a deplorable and stupid act, it was a bloodless event.
There is no justification for the abhorrent crimes of Stalin!
More general remark: Andy, do you really think that the Russian occupation of non-Russian territories lasting 123 years (1795-1918) (Lithuania, Western Belarus and Western Ukraine) gave them right for retaking in 1939??????? For me, it is nothing more than imperial mentality which was so happily embraced by the Soviet generals in 1939.
The situation of today is incomparably better, even if Lukashenka appoints first Easter Day AD 2003 as a day of mandatory entrance exams for university studies.
Voro, greetings for you, but there are areas where I can not agree with you. The Soviet aggression of Sept. 17, 1939 should never be excused.

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