Who was the Greatest person in History?

[limey_defence]

Is King Charles I 2000 years ago now? I don't think so.
So, with King Charles I, it was some random person they chopped the head off. The parliamentarian revolt lead by Cromwell was against some imaginary person.
And his name was written in a book. It is written in several accounts of him, by several different people and at several different times. The paintings of him all look alike. Tell me, what did Jesus look like?

I like the way you mentioned King Arthur then got rid of Merlin and such. Well, we don't know whether he existed or not. The castle that was that to apparently to house the round table holds no real proof, only tales and myths. With his Merlin, Jesus had turning water into wine. Which, we all know cannot be done. It's a fairey tale. Maybe we should believe in Darth Vader and the Star Wars galaxy, it has to be true, I saw them with my own eyes. It's all there in books and even in video documentaries called movies.
Maybe this Mel Gibson movie proves he existed. And did all those things he did. It's amazing, but really if you can't hold evidence you can't claim he was the greatest man alive.

For Charles I and Henry VIII there's several accounts, by several people, at several times with several painting all describing the same man, in the same way.
Jesus has a book call the bible thats testaments change from believer to believer. Different kind of Chrisitians argue with one another about how to worship him and the different reasons he did the different things. No hard evidence stands when all the people who claim he existed argue amongst one another and even war to try and prove their point.

Do the historians who say that Henry VIII existed war because they claim they should worship him slightly different? After all, look at Henry VIII he headed up a new way of worshipping Jesus and God, he couldn't of existed.

[rikbe]

Originally posted by Panzerschreck

How could you ever know if King Charles 1 ever existed?? his name was written in a book. After two thousand years, will people of that time belive that King Charles 1 existed?
But did King Arthur really existed??(Minus Merlin and other magic)

No King Arthur didn't exist. He was a figure of a novel.

If I only consider men that I am sure that really exist, I only know one great man: me. The other I know are from books, newspapers and TV and all these could be fake.

[Rain]

"My choice of [Prophet] Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level."

Michael H. Hart, THE 100: A RANKING OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN HISTORY, New York: Hart Publishing Company, Inc., 1978, p. 33.


"Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?"

Lamartine, HISTOIRE DE LA TURQUIE, Paris, 1854, Vol. II, pp. 276-277.

[limey_defence]

And we may ask, who gives a damn what they think?
Your opinion Rain, not some rectal warts.

[Panzerschreck]

Jesus was, and is the Son of God, what can he not do?? Just because you saw Star Wars that means it existed, then did you see King Charles before?? If so, go watch 'The Passion of Christ' and then believe.
And I didn't say that King Charles existed 2000 years ago, I meant in 4000a.d, will people believe in King Charles.

[rikbe]

Originally posted by Rain
"My choice of [Prophet] Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level."

Michael H. Hart, THE 100: A RANKING OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN HISTORY, New York: Hart Publishing Company, Inc., 1978, p. 33.


"Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?"

Lamartine, HISTOIRE DE LA TURQUIE, Paris, 1854, Vol. II, pp. 276-277.

I don't know H. Hart but I read something from Lamartine a long time ago. I don't remember what but I remember I didn't like it. I had to read it in highschool. It was a French poet, and I would not never take a poet as reference in a philosophical matter. Or any other matter.

[Rain]

Well, I think Muhammad was the Greatest ( not the boxer, the Prophet ). He wasnt good or bad, he was Just and Equitable. That balance is what the world needs, the rest leads to corruption or zeal...

R