Barbarians Week on History Channel

[rooskyprerebodchik]

Originally posted by Voyager13b

Rooskyprerebodchik,

Even without mentioning Ivan Grozny, the history of different peoples is so intertwined that discussion of the Huns has a place in this forum. Besides, it's interesting.



Voyager

That's true. History is wonderfully complicated to discuss on only one particular country. For example, if one were speaking of Hitler, you HAVE to mention jews.

[Osman_Gazi]

Originally posted by AnarchistPatriot
3) The Huns came from the Asian Steps, possibly from China or Mongolia

The Huns Were a Turko-Mongol People and they spoke the Turkic language. and they came from Mongolia. Ever heard of the Xiongnu!?. That was the first Turkic/Turkish Empire. The Xiongnu first appeared around 200BC in Mongolia and they terrorised the Chinese first, then Eventualy they moved westwerd towards europe.

Originally posted by AnarchistPatriot
and were mean and cruel and possibly the most feared people of all time.

Your Damn Right We Were..!

Originally posted by AnarchistPatriot
So vicious were the Huns, that Romans and Goths formed an allience to fight them

The Germans also Allied with us (Huns) and became part of the Huns in europe.

Originally posted by AnarchistPatriot
The Huns became a viable political force The Roman General Aetius, possible the most brilliant Roman General defeated Atilla, but deliberately allowed his escape so that he could be used to keep the Goths in check. After Atills's death the Huns declined and soon ceased to exist as a people.

Well done AnarchistPatriot! i see you spelt Atilla's name correctly . Because the europeans spell Atilla:

A T T I L L A...which is wrong!. His name is spelt with only 1=T and not 2=T's.


After the the Huns AnarchistPatriot we Created yet Another Empire Called the The Avars.

Originally posted by AnarchistPatriot
4) The Mongols built a huge empire from Europe to China. Gingas Kahn, their first great leader sacked many cities and took a cruel vengence upon all who opposed him.

And by Far the most powerful empire ever!. And he was one of the greatest leaders in history!.

Originally posted by AnarchistPatriot
Another great leader Tamurlane created another empire.

What?....Another Turk!? It should of been called Turk Week!.

Originally posted by AnarchistPatriot
He was said to have piled the heads of victims in a high stack, yet he also brought craftsmen and artisans to his capital at Samarskind and made it the among the worlds most stunning cities.

His real Name Was Temur and He was one of the greatest Turkish leaders in Turkic History.




[Edited by Osman_Gazi on 27th February 2004 at 22:40]

[Tugay-bey]

Actually,TIMUR-bek was a "barlas"-a Turcisised Mongol.

[Rain]

Where do Khazars fit in all this?

R

[Osman_Gazi]

Originally posted by Tugay-bey
Actually,TIMUR-bek was a "barlas"-a Turcisised Mongol.

It doesn't matter Tugay,.. He was still a Turk
"Turco-Mongol", and he spoke Chagatai Turkish.

[Kubik]

Originally posted by Rain
Where do Khazars fit in all this?

R

http://www.khazaria.com/
Medieval Kingdom of Khazaria, 650-1016
Over a thousand years ago, the far east of Europe was ruled by Jewish kings who presided over numerous tribes, including their own tribe: the Turkic Khazars. After their conversion, the Khazar people used Jewish personal names, spoke and wrote in Hebrew, were circumcised, had synagogues and rabbis, studied the Torah and Talmud, and observed Hanukkah, Pesach, and the Sabbath. The Khazars were an advanced civilization with one of the most tolerant societies of the medieval period. It hosted merchants from all over Asia and Europe

BTW: AnarchistPatriot: Temur/Timur might have been more of a warrior-leader, but his grandson and successor Ulugh Beg had more contribution to Samarkand (from cultural/scientific/civilisation point of view). He was more of a scientist than a ruler, he built one of the first observatories in the world and also calculated trigonometrical tables for the functions like Sine, Cosine etc up to 9-digit precision (Without the help o an intel-Pentium CPU ). I wouldn't consider his empire barbaric (at least not in the criterion of his era).

Regards

[Kara-seymen]

Rain hold on

what i see todays Russians is...Especially some Russians look mongoloid or they have some asiatic genes...

That came always different to me...
Some Bulgarians have that as well...Maybe they have turkic genes.what i wanted to point was is it really true that some Russians(not less)have mongoloid faces and it always makes me remember asian steppes...

Regards