Barbarians Week on History Channel

[AnarchistPatriot]

Anyone see any of that. I thought it was nothing less than amazing.

So what did we learn?

1) The Goths were a motley ban of Germans who sought protection from the Romans but were starved and enslaved instead so they rebelled and brought the Empire to its knees.
2) The Vikings were cruel seamen who invaded virtually all of Europe, raping and plundering all along the way. Seems to me a bit ironic that modern Scandanavians are so kind and gentle.
3) The Huns came from the Asian Steps, possibly from China or Mongolia and were mean and cruel and possibly the most feared people of all time. So vicious were the Huns, that Romans and Goths formed an allience to fight them. The Huns became a viable political force The Roman General Aetius, possible the most brilliant Roman General defeated Atilla, but deliberately allowed his escape so that he could be used to keep the Goths in check. After Atills's death the Huns declined and soon ceased to exist as a people.
4) The Mongols built a huge empire from Europe to China. Gingas Kahn, their first great leader sacked many cities and took a cruel vengence upon all who opposed him. Another great leader Tamurlane created another empire. He was said to have piled the heads of victims in a high stack, yet he also brought craftsmen and artisans to his capital at Samarskind and made it the among the worlds most stunning cities.
5) Hitler and Stalin had a great deal in common. Both had cruel fathers and domineering mothers. Both were distant, even to those close to them.
6) Caligula was possibly the most legendary perverts in history and a mass murderer. Yet he was probibly made that way by his uncle Tiberius who murdered his entire family and terrified him with acts of cruelty and depravity in his palace in Capri. Caligula had in his first year spent lavish sums of money on Palaces and Games. He then taxed the populace, forced noble women into prostitution, married his own sister and later murdered her. In the end he was killed by his own guards.
7) Though he truely lived up to his name, Ivan the Terrible was so called as a tribute to his power and his creation of an amazing empire. He was the first ruler to use the term "Czar", a corruption of the word "Ceasar". He started Russia's first secret police, who wore monk's attire. He invented new ways of torturing people. He was paranoid and suspicious, seeing enemies everywhere. He sacked the city of Novi Novagrad, suspecting its population of being in league with his enemies and put its entire population to the sword. He murdered his own son in a rage. His legacy was carried out by many other terrible rulers, among them Peter the Great (who enslaved and murdered thousands) and Stalin (who killed 20 million people).

[rooskyprerebodchik]

Originally posted by AnarchistPatriot
Anyone see any of that. I thought it was nothing less than amazing.

So what did we learn?

1) The Goths were a motley ban of Germans who sought protection from the Romans but were starved and enslaved instead so they rebelled and brought the Empire to its knees.
2) The Vikings were cruel seamen who invaded virtually all of Europe, raping and plundering all along the way. Seems to me a bit ironic that modern Scandanavians are so kind and gentle.
3) The Huns came from the Asian Steps, possibly from China or Mongolia and were mean and cruel and possibly the most feared people of all time. So vicious were the Huns, that Romans and Goths formed an allience to fight them. The Huns became a viable political force The Roman General Aetius, possible the most brilliant Roman General defeated Atilla, but deliberately allowed his escape so that he could be used to keep the Goths in check. After Atills's death the Huns declined and soon ceased to exist as a people.
4) The Mongols built a huge empire from Europe to China. Gingas Kahn, their first great leader sacked many cities and took a cruel vengence upon all who opposed him. Another great leader Tamurlane created another empire. He was said to have piled the heads of victims in a high stack, yet he also brought craftsmen and artisans to his capital at Samarskind and made it the among the worlds most stunning cities.
5) Hitler and Stalin had a great deal in common. Both had cruel fathers and domineering mothers. Both were distant, even to those close to them.
6) Caligula was possibly the most legendary perverts in history and a mass murderer. Yet he was probibly made that way by his uncle Tiberius who murdered his entire family and terrified him with acts of cruelty and depravity in his palace in Capri. Caligula had in his first year spent lavish sums of money on Palaces and Games. He then taxed the populace, forced noble women into prostitution, married his own sister and later murdered her. In the end he was killed by his own guards.
7) Though he truely lived up to his name, Ivan the Terrible was so called as a tribute to his power and his creation of an amazing empire. He was the first ruler to use the term "Czar", a corruption of the word "Ceasar". He started Russia's first secret police, who wore monk's attire. He invented new ways of torturing people. He was paranoid and suspicious, seeing enemies everywhere. He sacked the city of Novi Novagrad, suspecting its population of being in league with his enemies and put its entire population to the sword. He murdered his own son in a rage. His legacy was carried out by many other terrible rulers, among them Peter the Great (who enslaved and murdered thousands) and Stalin (who killed 20 million people).

Am I on the wrong Website, anarchist? I thought this was RUSSIA.com not GERMANY.com or HUNS.com

[AnarchistPatriot]

Originally posted by rooskyprerebodchik

Am I on the wrong Website, anarchist? I thought this was RUSSIA.com not GERMANY.com or HUNS.com

Well, I did mention Ivan the Terrible didnt I?

[Rain]

Mongols matter because they left a genetic imprint on today's Russians.

R

[rooskyprerebodchik]

Originally posted by AnarchistPatriot

Well, I did mention Ivan the Terrible didnt I?

my apology, I guess I overlooked it. I suppose that's true.

[AnarchistPatriot]

Originally posted by rooskyprerebodchik

my apology, I guess I overlooked it. I suppose that's true.

Its ok. What this teaches us is that barbarity is in the eyes of the beholder. Romans may have been civilized but they sure like to see people die. Anyone who has been to Rome knows of the Coleseum where men fought eachother to death and human beings became food for lions.

[Voyager13b]

Originally posted by rooskyprerebodchik

Am I on the wrong Website, anarchist? I thought this was RUSSIA.com not GERMANY.com or HUNS.com

Rooskyprerebodchik,

Even without mentioning Ivan Grozny, the history of different peoples is so intertwined that discussion of the Huns has a place in this forum. Besides, it's interesting.



Voyager