Hitler Vs. Stalin

[limey_defence]

Did I say they were all Knights, no. I said Rommel was a knight and he was no where near your precious Poland and he was never in charge of any SS division. You say they are all scum but you generalise all the time even in the Germany army it differed man to man, the privates in that army weren't all murderers, they fought or they got shot by their own people. Or they were just fighting for Germany.

For all those others willing to stick to the thread, Hitler Vs. Stalin. Hitler did not kill his own generals, and Hitler although he did take part in my of his armys actions tactically he did not completely destroy records of tactics researched by his military theorists, like Stalin did.
Also, whoever said Hitler simply copied Stalin seems to have just looked at the industrial reform and not looked on the way they achieved it. Russia in the late 20s and early 30s were rising to an industrial power but all their industry was still obselete, they lacked skilled workmen, technical knowledge or tools to perform techincal construction. They bought or aqquired all of their industry from the Western powers, Germany, Britain, the USA.
The Germans and Hitler however, up until 1933 were testing tanks and aircraft in Russia due to the Treaty of Versaille, testing weapons against the treaty before Hitler was in power, maybe they were preparing for war anyway. Anyway, even with the treaty holding them down Germany rose to industrial might and it wasn't mass numbers, it was technological supremecy and it was all achieved within the restrains of Germany and the treaty.
Stalin just ran slave camps and west technology to achieve industrialisation whereas Hitler reformed with the prospect of war and did not kill or enslave his own race of people when Stalin did.

[prawda]

u still dont get it lime...u alredy talk **** about poland and u think ure britain is precious....what reason has germans in poland or middleast so rommel had rigth to go to war in middleast and not poland its both stupid....only brat rich retards dreams off joining wars cause ure so far from it...ss wasnt in poland? u think ure some kind of internet expert ss was in poland u just gonna have to acept it...now off example ss galizen? u dont so be quite kid...the ss had its tropes in most east europe..when gestapo neded help they call ss to clean up sometimes...

the problem is u dont wanna understand lime u need these dreams thats the sik nedey gredy....u think it was rigth for germany to attack half the world thats why u a nazi suporter u need to acept it...without these dreams off german nazi war u have no life...

[limey_defence]

No, I said that Rommel wasn't in Poland and that he never commanded an SS division. I never said SS wasn't in Poland.

You are twisting what I say into that I support Nazism. I do not support Nazism. I can just see that Hitler was a great leader for his race of people, SS were elite troops and Rommel was a respectable honourable military man, a knight.

We all think our home nations are precious. Don't you think your Poland to be precious?

[prawda]

why does it mathe rommel was in poland or middleeast they did damage in both places...what did the germans have to do and kill people in poland and inavde its lands..haha do u think people care if killed by manstein or rommel?
poland is precios normaly cause of logic reason but all world has same rigth to be as important...relations makes u relate but if germans would relate more to poland they wouldnt have to attack but they didnt they see it as slav and jew animals...

why is rommal a knigth? so hitler also ure romance knigth? war to me is only in defence a bad evil but to attack other countrys only for grredy and kill is wrong but u think its rigth cause u feel rommel and hitler was respewctable persons and did rigth...thats stupid and this why u suport nazis without knowing it...u dont undrstand u think war is something romantic....its not fun as u dream off u need more streets....after streets u say u wnt to war....the only obligation u have is to protect ure family and frinds how did rommel protect his family in middleast and manstein in east europe? u just say folow orders, so u in nazi army in ww2 and ger order to kill a whole polish family what u do? u feel like knigth after that..what was goal for germans in ww2? u know it and u avoid it..

[limey_defence]

I am just saying from a military stand point Rommel was a brilliant tactical mind and a honourable man. Remember he wasn't a Nazi and he did not like Hitler. He was told by Hitler to commit suicide or be tried for treason in his connections of the Hitler assasination attempt.
Remember that many of the people who fought were fighting for their Germany not always for Nazism. This is what Hitler greatly relied on, the German peoples love for their country. And their wanting to see their nation great.
They were bitter after World War 1.

I never said Hitler was a knight, I said he was a great leader for his race.

Rommel was a knight because he acted with honour on the battlefield, he was like a Chivilric knight of the 20th century. It matters that you tar him the same because he did not persecute Jews or Slavs and did not support Hitler. His combat was only against the Western Nations, he was not one of the murderers you hate so much and have the right to hate.
The people who fought him respected him because he treated captives with honour and he respected them while they respected him. It goes way back to knighthood of the Middle Ages. Chivalry was a knights honour and Rommel had it.

To Rommel he wanted honour like Knights always do, they seek honour and glory. Rommel did not kill or persecute natives of any nation. He just fought Army on Army, all his actions were military. He commited no war crimes, no persecutions, no racial executions, he fought a war.

[prawda]

rommel figth war but he figth for what goal? if germany won he proly had middleast as 3 rich protecterate and they would get orders to chain and clean up arabs,jews,berbers there...if ure country figth to protect thats normal but it was imperial and racial war even if not rommel that i heard figth in genocide he figth with goal for imperial germany to win and establish arian third reich..ss was in poland u said they werent but it dont mather germany figth wrong war it only fuked up the world..
lime u dont even qualif for irak try go there then get blown up and se how it is...
the real war is on streets its in life...goin and blowin up across the borders helps no one enemy is the greedy the rich politicians etc...

[limey_defence]

Are you trying to tell me I don't qualify to comment on Iraq? Do you think anyone here does without actually going there?

The Iraq War was justified, that's the end of it.

You obviously don't understand Rommel if you'd read up on him as much as I have, you'd gain a lot more respect for him. He was one of the last to follow the code of war, even if his other Generals didn't.