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Old 22nd May 2004, 14:16
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Hitler did what the World did. Hitler tried to kill the Jews and failed. The Spanish and the Portuguese managed to wipe out the language, culture, and believes of the South Americans. Hitler was a dictator. Every king in the ancient world was a dictator. Hitler invaded and conquered. The English were the best at it. Hitler was a racist. The Americans were even after WW2, and racist still exist now in the world. Hitler did what the world did and was hated by the world, just because it didn’t profit the World. The English conquered most of the world and was considered ‘Great’ while the Germans with the same intentions were considered evil.
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The British never attempted to bring about the genocide of any of the peoples that they conquered and even the Spanish and Portuguese did not deliberately try to wipe out the Indians of South America-most of them died from European diseases to which they had no immunity.The British in general made little attempt to control the lives of their imperial subjects therefore Hindus and Muslims within the empire were free to perform the religious worship which they had done prior to colonistaion and native civil servants rather than Britishers were used to administer colonies.The British policy was to provide the native social elite of their colonies with a system of values which profited them and it was therefore in their self interest to maintain that system.The Germans on the other hand sought to ruthlessly impose their values on others and executed and tortured those who opposed them,therefore no comparison can be made between them and the British empire and no comparison can be made with the Spanish conquistadors because it is not the place of students of history to make value judgements on the morality of cultures which existed 500 years ago.
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Old 24th May 2004, 13:49
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'Spanish and Portuguese did not deliberately try to wipe out the Indians of South America' are you sure?? Then Hitler accidentally let out some gas and killed the Jews.
Capturing other nations is already wrong. The British were using their force, and slimmy treaties and English culture to influence them, almost the same as the Japanese was trying to do in Asia, by washing off Western influence and replacing them with their own, and then it will become the Jap's allies, which also means a colony. It is intentions that is wrong, not the ways they carry out the crime.
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Old 29th May 2004, 05:31
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How can you compare the British Empire, to the German one of 1939-1945?

The British empire benefitted those nations and states it controlled. The nations under the British Empire had their own governments and their own culture. Their cultures, beliefs, race and religion was respected by the British.
Many old British states still respect the British, like India. Many British ideas are still held in India, their military for example has the same old uniform of the British, and their rank system is based on the British one.

Even many of the Middle Eastern nations respect the British, and their military. The African nations under the rule of Britain had effective argricultures and generally a more effective nation. When the British pulled out they starved.
The British is all about hearts and minds of the people, and this it has done for decades. It couldn't have been more different to the German empire.
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Old 29th May 2004, 06:13
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Hey Limey, you were gone for a while.
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Old 29th May 2004, 07:36
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How can you compare the British Empire, to the German one of 1939-1945?

The British empire benefitted those nations and states it controlled. The nations under the British Empire had their own governments and their own culture. Their cultures, beliefs, race and religion was respected by the British.
Many old British states still respect the British, like India. Many British ideas are still held in India, their military for example has the same old uniform of the British, and their rank system is based on the British one.

Even many of the Middle Eastern nations respect the British, and their military. The African nations under the rule of Britain had effective argricultures and generally a more effective nation. When the British pulled out they starved.
The British is all about hearts and minds of the people, and this it has done for decades. It couldn't have been more different to the German empire.
Let's see. British sugar made british rum which made a slave to work the sugar fields. India slightly different with the british victory in the opium wars.

German late empire had farmers and scientist working on crop yeilds, about the only atrocity outside of europe that I can recall was shooting off the nose of the sphinx but I recall that was blamed on napoleon troops as well.
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Old 29th May 2004, 09:56
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Good way to avoid mentioning Europe. You're getting lazy.
So in reality the two empires don't compare, which is proven with your lame attempt to try. And I may add Slavery was abolished in Britain, and it's Empire while it still controlled one third of the world.

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