Can someone clear this up for me?

[C-Force]

Why did Russia have so many more casualties in WWII then any other country?

13,600,000- Military killed
7,720,000- Civilian killed

Why were so many of them civilians?

Thank you.

[Voyager13b]

Originally posted by C-Force
Why did Russia have so many more casualties in WWII then any other country?

13,600,000- Military killed
7,720,000- Civilian killed

Why were so many of them civilians?

Thank you.

C-Force,

Several things come to mind, not the least of which is the thought that Stalin neither prepared for the war, nor gave much thought to the fate of individual Soviet citizens after it started. The "man of steel" shares responsibility in the fate of millions of dead Soviets.

Even with taking Stalin out of the equation though, Hitler did not seem to be interested in defeating and occupying the CCCP in the traditional sense. He convinced his nation that Russians were sub-human, and had no more value than a bug on the sidewalk. On top of that, it seems that he also convinced his nation that Slavs, in and of themselves, presented a danger to humanity.

That being the case, it was easy to get back to his main ambition, which was to exterminate most of the people living to the east, and make room for his master race to expand. Western Europe only needed to be brought under Nazi control. Their economy and cooperation was important to Hitler, but their land wasn't.

The idea of annexing western Russia to Germany proper, for the sole purpose of providing room for Arian expansion, and without the burden of having to tolerate an indigenous population seems to have been Hitler's goal all along. The number of civilian vs military deaths in the CCCP isn't surprising to me in that case, as destroying the Soviet military was merely a necessary step in achieving the ultimate goal of annihilating the rest of the population before Nazi Germany could call the land it's own.

In my estimation, the vile treatment of the Jews was just a warm up act to what was in store for Russians if Hitler had been able to stage a triumphant visit to the Kremlin .


Voyager

[TITE]

I heard that Russia lost 100thousand soilders and the 13-15 million deaths were actually civilians but the west to discredit Russia is just saying oh no it was 13-15million Russian soilders, ist this true or not true (I don't wanna argue so please just give me the answer only thank you)

[Voyager13b]

Originally posted by TITE
I heard that Russia lost 100thousand soilders and the 13-15 million deaths were actually civilians but the west to discredit Russia is just saying oh no it was 13-15million Russian soilders, ist this true or not true (I don't wanna argue so please just give me the answer only thank you)

TITE,

I once heard that the Moon was made out of green cheese, but reason convinced me that the theory might be flawed. Same goes for your thought that only 100,000 Russian soldiers died at Hitlers hand. It takes balls to abandon reality in favor of your ideology.


Voyager

[C-Force]

Were the Russians killed systematically like the Jews were? Of course they weren't shipped to concentration camps like the Jews were, but perhaps that was only because the Russians didn't actually live in Germany, otherwise maybe they would have.

Back to my question though, was this an attempt to wipe-out the entire Russian race like they tried with the Jews? And if it was, why the heck don't the Russians b**** and complain about it like our Jews do today? Especially since they suffered SO much more than the Jews.

One more thing. We know Stalin was responsible for a lot of Russian deaths. But were those deaths during the war, or after? Or can all of the Russian civilian deaths during WWII be blamed on Hitler alone?

[TITE]

First of all it is not my ideology it's something I heard from an American news paper in 2002 and before I belived it I want to know if this is not true so I asked you so you need to calm down and read slowly before saying I Tite have this as my Ideology. C-Force Stalin killed between 20-100million Russians Alexander Solzhenitsyn is a very famous and regarded author on communism he also stated that 66 million Russian were killed by Stalin or I think he said Stalin- Kruschef (I don know how to spell his name so don't trip)

[C-Force]

Yes TITE, I know Stalin killed 10's of millions of people. But I want to know how many people died due to WWII not because of communist purges/famines etc. More precisely I want to know how many deaths we can blame on Hitler and the Nazis.