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Old 30th June 2004, 15:36
Balamut Balamut is offline
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True, but I do not think that it was necessary for Russia to win the war.

It has been thought by many Russians at the time that Nazi rule would be no worse than Stalin. I don't think Hitler was a good person but he was really no better than Stalin. In fact, that so many Russians served in Hitler's army attests to the fact that many Russians considered one no worse than the other
Unbelievable; But! I , here, present the other russian part(in my very humble opinion, majority), which considers winning in this war necessary.
500 000 trucks- you'r not mistaking?
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Old 30th June 2004, 15:42
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the tank, the half-track, the truck. How could an infantry division keep up with the tank division if it is not truck borne?
On tanks of course! That was the usual way of russian soldieers to travel.

(Sorry no long posts. I'm sitting in the office, not at home.)
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Old 30th June 2004, 22:52
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359 000 US trucks and 44 000 US jeeps. But numbers are still impressive.
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Old 1st July 2004, 11:58
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Tank desants could not be used on the operational basis, only on the combat basis. In an armoured division there would, or should, always have been an attached (mobilised) infantry division to take the place of the breakthroughs of the tanks, so the tanks could move on.
On a combat situation the people did ride tanks, but once the objective of the tanks had been achieved, the mobilised infantry wait for the infantry, normally, following behind before moving up again. Where are the tanks then? The tanks are 20 miles up the road on their way to the next objective.

On top of that, supplies have to be carried by truck. There's only so much airborne supply can do.

The USA supplied 501,660 tactical wheeled and tracked vehicles. 77,972 Jeeps, 151,053 (1 ton) trucks and 200,662 (2 ton) trucks. The initials USA on the sides were, in the USSR, taken to stand Ubiyat Sukinsyna Adolfa.
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Old 1st July 2004, 13:35
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Ok I don't want to make farther research, but I think you'r right. My mistake.
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Old 1st July 2004, 13:45
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I have nothing against lend-lease. Moreover, I'm very thankful for this suplies.
Just statements "It was crucial to the USSR" are like "US truck won the war" and, excuse me, I'm not, to put it mildly, agree with this.
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Old 1st July 2004, 15:54
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The trucks were the most important thing given to the Soviet Union from the Western Allies. And they did mobilise the Red Army. I don't see the problem with accepting that, I can admit a lot of what the Soviets did was vital for victory of all three.

Both the Soviet Union and the Western Allies needed on another. It's as simple as that.

I always like discussing with you, because it's a discussion not a slanging match. Have a nice day.

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