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Old 15th August 2004, 05:15
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But Prussia was never Slavonic in population, as somebody said above, it was Baltic. If we have to consider taking it from Russia, then Lithuania would have to be the 'next of kin' to the long dead Prussians. After them, we would have to consider the Polyaks and Belorus, each having a considerable Balic substrate. Hmmmm, come to think of it, doesn't Moskva itself have a Baltic etymology?

If you start getting into all this autochthonistic stuff you open a horrific can of worms. If you investigate the worms you'll find half have their tails tied together anyway! The Balts were a large part in the make up of the Krivichian tribe of modern Russia's heartland, so maybe the Russians in Koenigsburg might as well just be left there after all. Hell, who won the bloody war????
Yeah, but the Krivichian tribe were largely Slavic, though with probably some Blat influence. Besides, what about the Balt Galindian tribe(a.k.a. Golyad)?
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Old 30th August 2004, 18:48
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I believe anarchists are like punks, The History of Rock and Roll Series describes it best, "When the punks figured out they were all the same then they stopped fighting for their individuality."

No one can forget their roots, even if those roots haunt them they can at least look at the positives. It is ignorant to say that one can live without their historical influences since environmental influence is a major part of personal development. This flys against Ann Rand but she was proven wrong countless times.

Poland has suffered throughout the ages, a great nation that was destroyed by nobles that took their own country for granted. Polish citizens will crush you if you threaten their house but they won't care if you take over the country. This is changing however with a greater awareness of our history, showing that if we are not united then the country will crumble as it has so many times and all houses will be destroyed. Germany won't take our property by force because of the international scene, maybe through the acquisition of land by moving there or establishing companies...the steadier approach. So we have to develop our own style, not Americanize everything. We have to heed Trent Reznor from NIN's warning and not look through "American eyes". Only then will Germany's claim be seen as trivial and umimportant in comparison to our growing and successful unity.
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Old 31st August 2004, 03:35
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What about Sudetaland? Should it be given back to the Germans?
Giving everything back is always interesting to talk about knowing that it will never happen. In Hitler's Second Book he states that Sudeten land was at one time German but after occupation by the french they were or became French and germans getting it back was fairly pointless. Germany supposedly wanted to conquer the world peacefully (before the two world wars) but due to it's location germany and germans were in between powers that wanted to keep them weak or more importantly checking outside imperialism. Hitler stated the only realistic chance of lebenstraum was to look towards the continent in order to expand.
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Old 31st August 2004, 05:30
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Sudetenland is in the Chech Republic since 1919.

It was populated mainly by ethnic Germans (about three million)but still, it was given to the Chechs.
According to the Munnich agreement(1938) what was signed by the British, the French and the Italians the Sudetenland was annexed by Hitler's Germany.
I think Germany had all the right to do it in 1938.

Why not to do it again?
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Old 31st August 2004, 08:10
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Again...chill.
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Old 31st August 2004, 17:16
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ure a bit late...looks stupid saying chill after 1 month...
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