where does the name ATTILA,the king of Huns,come from?

[Tonyukuk]

Different statements ,which were made as to from where the name ATTILA ,who is the king of Huns,comes from are, as the following..

The greatest and best work of all times regarding European Huns is The World of the Huns prepared by Otto Haelfen Maenchen and Nine foremost experts.

O.Haelfen Maenchen advocates that view that Attila is originally of German origin rather than Turkic one and explains Attila as Att (father in Gothic ) and Ýla

According to Otto haelfen maenchen ,Attila means litle father .

Laszlo Rasonyi,one of Hungarian historians,appericates the view that Attila comes from the river Volga and the view that Attila is essentially a Turkic name.Magyars called ATTILA ETELE .Germans called Him ETZEL..Greek people
called him ATILLAS..These names are nothing but the river ETEL (ATIL).Turks used the name ATIL (ETEL)to refer to the river Volga..

"Attila", pronounced 'Ah-til-lah in Hungarian, appears to be very old in the langauge, in the early form of "Etele". "Etel" or "Atil" appears to refer to"river" in the Western Turkic languages. The Khazars, who spoke such a
language, called their capital "Atil", for instance.


Omeljan Pritsak's derivation,which also suggests an explanation for the river.

he proposes a hypothetical *es - *tel which he says would mean "big sea".*es is a reconstructed word by Pritsak based on later turkic words(he also uses it in his reocnstruction of the danube bulgjar inscriptions).
*tel is based on turkic taluy "ocean, sea". his etymology has been much criticized. it would however, be consistent with his son's name dengizik (or *dengir*ch*ik) which is straighforwardly "little sea" in turkic.

these would be consistent with the name Chinggis (most reasonably from turkic "sea") and the title Dalai (Lama) from the mongolian version of turkic taluy.

[Hans_Testicleese]

I think you have been misinformed, You will probably find that his parents gave him the name Atilla!

[Tonyukuk]

Originally posted by Hans_Testicleese
I think you have been misinformed, You will probably find that his parents gave him the name Atilla!

You cant argue this topic with me If you have not read any book regarding Huns or If you dont know the fact that The preponderance of the scholarly judgement about their ethnic paternity is that they were a Proto-Turkich tribe which spoke an archaic form of Turkic.

I am accused of claiming that Huns are of Turkic.First of all,U should be cognizant of that Fact that This view does not belong to me..I am wondering about whether you have read the books by the world-renowed scholars such as J.deguignes,J.klaproth,Hirth,Marguart,Pelliot,Franke,Nemeth,Mcgovern,Grousset,Eberhard,Pritsak,Hauss ing,Basin,Clauson,Szasz,Samolin,Gumilev,Altheim,Rasonyi,Abel-Remusat,semenov,Ritter ,Koskinen,Shiratoriy,Baskakov,Grjimaylo,Roux,Stein,Vambery,Ligeti,Maenchen,Gabain,Benzing and etc..Secondly,There is no concensus among scientifics in relation to whether the name Attila comes from.I just mention the current interpretations regarding this personage.

[Hans_Testicleese]

I can tell you are well versed in the history of Huns, and that you probably went to college or even university. My theory is further backed up by the fact that you have no ability to detect sarcasm. You score highly in academic studies, but fail miserably when it comes to logic. Was I contesting your view? No. Was I making a light hearted joke? Yes. Was I mocking you? No, but I am now.

[Tonyukuk]

Originally posted by Hans_Testicleese
I can tell you are well versed in the history of Huns, and that you probably went to college or even university. My theory is further backed up by the fact that you have no ability to detect sarcasm. You score highly in academic studies, but fail miserably when it comes to logic. Was I contesting your view? No. Was I making a light hearted joke? Yes. Was I mocking you? No, but I am now.

Hans_Testicleese .There is a misunderstanding in the offing..I differently and wrongly commented what you meant by that post..sorry for that

[Hans_Testicleese]

Apology accepted, lets never fight again.

Your pal and mine
Hans_Testicleese

[Tonyukuk]

Originally posted by Hans_Testicleese
Apology accepted, lets never fight again.

Your pal and mine
Hans_Testicleese

Hans_Testicleese It just was a mistake stemming from a misunderstanding.I dont like fight and am a man who believes in democracy warranting freedom of expression for everybody.so U are free to comment on what I sent via this forum as u wish.

I dont think that mutual replies seem to be a fight..are we rivals ? No..take care of you.