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Old 16th January 2005, 19:33
Balamut Balamut is offline
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So what's with your quote? Nec hercules contra plures.
If you prefer Odysseus?
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Old 17th January 2005, 08:18
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No,Alex,don't even try to weasel your way out of this one...Explane,what you meant by "collectivistic culture"

Collectivistic culture is orientation on collective rather than on individuals. Has nothing to do with Kremlin or something. Two main determining features of collectivistic culture are, in my mind:

Considering yourself part of a certain group form smallest - family to largest - nation. Treating other people like members of certain groups first of all.

I think you are guilty in collectivistic thinking yourself. When you once said to someone that we both are "far-easterners", while he isn't, you showed relict of collectivistic culture

Next, all "special bonds" between members of a group are purely collectivistic culture thing. etc. Have in mind that collectivistic culture doesn't mean absense of individuality. It means more attention to groups and relations between groups, not just between individuals.

So I'm not able not to feel offensed personally if my group is offensed, because I'm strongly associate myself with that group.

couse,IMO,it ain't no Russian thing,but,rather,Soviet,cultivated by the red propaganda mashine.


Nope, it's Russian thing, not only Russian though, but rather Eastern thing, not western. Collectivistic culture was rich soil for utopic communist ideas, not the other way round. China - another country with collectivistic mentality, even more collectivistic than Russian. They're quite happy with their "barrack socialism with free market for foreigners". Brrr...

P.S. Sorry for late reply - but Saturday and Sunday are my politics-free days...
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Old 17th January 2005, 15:03
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Back to the russian "glorious" history folks.
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