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Old 6th June 2003, 23:04
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Genetic research in China


In China nearly 5 thusand yrs history only Yuan and Qing these two dynasties under Altaic tribe ruled, just total 350 yrs, in rest of yrs Chinese over ran the others, and absorb any other ethnics group but not race mixed. the funny thing like many Altaic tribes such Huns and Tungus claim they were authentic Chinese even than many Chinese themself.Many Chinese official website and books records only Tajik is caucasian people and speak Indo-Euro tone, Uzbek and Uyghur are mixed may absorb ancient Tochanrian gene.

Tochanrian this only Indo-Euro caucasian live in today's Uyghurstan in China, in pre-history, No any other Altaic tribe and and Sino-Tibeten speaker entered Tarim basin,Tochanrian are earlest resident in Uyghurstan as far as we know. Centainly Tocharian were step into the land that most far east among the whole caucasian tribe but they never were able to cross over Altai mountain and Tarim desert. Chinese is mongoloid is in term just say Russian is caucasian, how persentage is affected by other race genetic impact are very small. In Russian one thousand history has over 200 yrs were under Mongol/Tatar yake, as many also know Finno-Uglic tribes merged into Russian gene pool, h'ever Russian's caucasian gene code are over 95%. one Chinese gov. paper reflect that only 1% of total Han Chinese has genetic code are link to Caucasian gene, but it's much higher than Japs, Korean. Interesting is Gansu povince in China is highest caucasian gene present, nearly 5%, local museum keep may Byzentium/Persian/Arabian goods through silk raod between Western and Chinese. Gansu is west gataway for China, it's make sence.

Don't fool oneself say something that ancient Altaic tribe such Huns, Turks, Mongols may mixed with caucasian, that is wrong. Huns / Turks / Mongols are all Mongoloid, like today's Chinese. Their skulls in tomb are fully match today's Mongolian / northern Chinese.

Hmong is Miao in China, they are over 6 millions, they speak Sino-Tibetan, between Han and Miao just like British and German...who tells they are Austroid? check following website you may have clear picture of language on this earth.

http://www.ethnologue.com/family_index.asp
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Old 6th June 2003, 23:21
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Hi, bisserk, I know you are Kazak who speak Russian and spend lot of time on Turkey.com In you deeply heart you think you are Chinaman..? haha..just kidding.

Jps, Korean, and Chinese are not Altaic language but phyisically looks very similar. especially Chinese by genetically close to Altaic people. Think about this: Fins, Estonian, Hungarian are phyisically are no big different with Slavic people, but they speak another language. Following web site can show you what you are interesting for.

http://www.ethnologue.com/family_index.asp
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Old 9th June 2003, 19:49
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the first race in uyghurstan was turk, there was an unknown part in the history of the area, the turks massacred all the tocharians and made all their women sex slaves. That is why the descendents of them only speak turkish.

And if you are talking about finns, and estonians, the original native eskimo races of northern russia not those fake ones with swedish blood happy to have their lil countries, you will see a humungous racial difference in remote regions where there was no race mixing, the samoyed race of northern karelia are still indistinguishable from siberians and inuits. Theres about 6000-20000 of them and you can see pictures of them in the ethnic book of the soviet union from the first soviet census in 1920

the original australoids were caucasian looking dotheadoids, those negroid types were former slaves of proto japanese/chinese turks. they have done genetic research in the area, Chinese and Japanese have almost same amount of polynesian blood, share many lexicon words in their languages, and currently are the dominating powers of the area, my guess is turks created china and brought those negroids to the philipines. Madagascar is a polynesian speaking country next to africa. The turks that created china were of different tribe and were driven south by more agressive turkic races , where they took in a sea life eating fish. Chinese new year also has boat race which is very strange celebration for a huge continental country.


korean and jap are not altaic but there is an ancient link, korean is eskimoic and are related to siberians , japanese is of an unknown type

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Old 10th June 2003, 00:09
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bisserk also unknown type...
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Old 10th June 2003, 03:30
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MISCONCEPTION


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HEY, MAN, BEFORE YOU GET INTO THIS TOPIC YOU BETTER PREPARE SOME KNOWLEDGE ABOUT RACE, ETHNIC GROUP AND LINGUAL CONNECTION. THE LANGUAGE IS NOT ONLY ONE BENCHMARK TO DECIDE YOUR ROOT CATAGORY.

everyone know biserk is a Kazak, your language is Turkic, Turkey is Turkic speaking state also, but Turkey is Caucasian base country, your Kazak men are Mongoloids. It's too simple to proof it, let you people walk in street in Moscow/Warsaw/Berlin, European easy figure out you from central/east Asia, just look at your flat face and high cheek bone...but when you Kazak stay in China/Japan, there is no one pay attention on you...you are all Asian regardless what's your language speaking is. Does it right?

China's civilazation is over 5000 yrs, the Altaic tribe earliest records hand by Chinese back to 2600 yrs, Turks emerge on history stage just began on 375 AD. remember NOMADS people can't create civilazation, like Huns, Turk, Mongols..all low class nomads tribes, company by horse, swards, violence...even in Mongols view Turk is sub class tribe...please name any contribution to human history by Turk or Altaic people, don't mention Turkey, they stealed from Byzentine.

Finally, bisserk pls, don't use "guess" this word on web posting, in past yrs you post hundreds nonsense threads under such term: "guess" ha...I am not lier..ck it out by yourself...too much I guess...

in your brain everything is Turk, Russian is , Chinese is, it's totally suck..man...get out this forum and cool down moment. BTW, show us some beautiful Kazak girl picture to replace those Turkman... bisserk, spend more time and money to build your country to be respected, don't dream have pan-turk world, it's wont come to true.
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Old 10th June 2003, 07:05
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Both Hsiung-nu and European Huns had the Caucasian elements which has been proved by archeaological evidence, I think it doesn't need to discuss here.

As for Chinese people during the time of Hsiung-nu, It's quite confused indeed. Archeaologicl evidence (Including the DNA study on ancient Chinese people) show us that in fact those original inhabitants in Asia mainly were Causasian (In Northern China) and Astraloid ( In Southern China) but not the Mongoloid people like today's Chinese people.

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Old 10th June 2003, 07:21
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Hemudu Culture established a presence along the lower Yangtze River delta. There is evidence of rice cultivation, fishing, and wood frame houses etc. Hemudu Culture was validated to have excavated articles bearing the bird-sun totem, a heritage observed in later Yangshao Culture and Longsang Culture;

--- It's what Mr.Countryboy wrote in his paper: http://www.uglychinese.org/prehistory.htm

The period of Hemudu culture was during B.C. 4360 to B.C. 3360. Main sites was located in today's Zhejiang province, Southern China. Sketeton studies show us that the ancient civilization was created by the Australoid people. We don't read the detailed DNA test report on this Issue yet.




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