Europe

[Stefaan]

Russia has always been a European country.

This is the historical moment for Europe to stand.

Maybe we'll lend our military or diplomatic support. Maybe not.

Russia should become a member of the EC in the first place.

Stefaan

[Nonson]

Stefaan,

Russia has never acted as though it were an European country. Its political and social processes have always been more closely identified with a pseudo-Eastern philosophy.


Nonson

[JUlia_P]

Who are you to call Eastern phylosofy pseudo? Have you studyed it thoroughly? Eastern culture is much more ancient and more complicated than European.
Have you ever got any education Nonson, I wonder?

[Ragnvald]

what is pseudo Eastern philosophy, anyway?
Who identified Russian culture as belonging to this philosophy?
who made the judgment?

That's exactly what I just said in the post "letter to the enemy".
Propaganda tried and succeded to create some stupid prejudices about Russia.

Does "Crime and Punishment" belong to pseudo Eastern philosophy?
Does "War and Peace" belong to the pseudo Eastern philosophy?
Does Tchaikovsky's music belong to pseudo Eastern philosophy?

Well, then I like that philosophy.
But it's not for some product of truly pseudo culture to label it.

[Nonson]

If you are ignorant of the history of the Khazars then you have no basis for a vaild opinion on the subject.


Nonson

[Ragnvald]

What about Khazars?
Russian princes fought Khazars from time of Oleg, so what?

[Nonson]

"Many Turkic tribes began to infiltrate into Europe about the fifth century CE. The Magyars moved into what is now Finland; The Avars, Sabirs and Bulgars occupied the Danube basin; the Khazars followed the Kok Turks and spread out along the northern flanks of the Caucacus Mountains, skirting the Aral, Caspian and Black Seas. The tent-dwelling, horse-riding, Khazar herdsmen absorbed some peoples of that hilly area, allied themselves with others, and became transformed into a sedentary nation.

The Khazars were brought into contact with other communities of Jews already functioning around the Caspian Sea from the time Sidonese Israelites had been deported in 351 BCE. Documentary evidence shows that, likewise, both Karaite and Rabbinate Jews had been in continuous habitation in the Crimea at least as far back as the first century CE.2

The Judaic communities around the Caspian Sea burgeoned with refugees after Roman legions crushed the Bar Khochba revolt and proceeded to destroy the Judaic state in 135 CE. The expulsion of Jews from Jerusalem and the enslavement and exportation of scores of thousands of Jews spurred the exodus to the east.

A few centuries later the Khazars moved into the area and evolved into a vigorous civilization. They became self-sufficient enough to become independent of the sovereignty of the Khagans who ruled over the vast eastern Turkic empire. They conducted affairs under their own Khans, warrior kings who derived from the same roots which produced the much-feared Genghis Khan.3" -Kurinsky-


Nonson