Russia Forums Community


Go Back   Russia.com Discussion Forum > Culture > History
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 21st February 2002, 03:48
Ann236 Ann236 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 4
Exclamation

Hi I'm looking for some information on the Russian revolution i have to write a paper on it and I also need to interview someone from Russia as a source does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks,
ann
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 21st February 2002, 05:38
AgentOO7 AgentOO7 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 95
Ann, there was never a russian revolution. Read this and you shall understand...



by Benjamin H. Freedman

Introductory Note:
Benjamin H. Freedman was one of the most intriguing and amazing individuals of the 20th century. Mr. Freedman, born in 1890, was a successful Jewish businessman of New York City who was at one time the principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with organized Jewry after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945, and spent the remainder of his life and the great preponderance of his considerable fortune, at least 2.5million dollars, exposing the Jewish tyranny which has enveloped the United States. Mr. Freedman knew what he was talking about because he had been an insider at the highest levels of Jewish organizations and Jewish machnations to gain power over our nation. Mr. Freedman was personally acquainted with Bernard Baruch, Samuel Untermyer, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Joseph Kennedy, and John F. Kennedy, and many more movers and shakers of our times. This speech was given before a patriotic audience in 1961 at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C., on behalf of Conde McGinley's patriotic newspaper of that time. Common Sense. Thourht in some minor ways this wide-ranging and extemporaneous speech has become dated, Mr. Freedman's essential message to us--his warning to the West--is more urgent than ever before.


>Here is the United States, the Zionists and their co-religionists have complete control of our government. For many reason, too many and too complex to go into here at this time, the Zionists and their co=religionists rule these United States as though they were the absolute monarchs of this country. Now you may say that is a very broad statement, but let me show you what happened while we were all asleep.

What happened? World War I broke out in the summer of 1914. There are few people here my age remember that. Now that wer was waged on one side by Great Britain, France, and Russia; and on the other side by Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey.

Within two years Germany has won the war: not only won it norminally, but won it actually. The German submarines, which were a surprise to the world, has swept all the convoys from the Atlantic Ocean. Great Britain stood there without ammunition for her soldiers, with one week's food supply=and after that, starvation. At that time, the French amry had mutinied. They had lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdum on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting, they were picking up their toys and going home, they didn't want to play war anymore, they didn't like the Czar. And the Italian army had collapsed.

Not a single shot had been fired on German soil. Not one enemy soldier had crossed the border into Germany. And yet, Germany was offering England peace terms. They offered England a negotiated peace on what the lawyers call a statu quo ante basis. That means: "Let's call the war off, and everything be as it was before the war started." England, in the summer of 1916 was considering that seriously. They had no choice. It was either accepting this negotiated peace that Germany was magnanimously offering them, or going on with the war and being totally defeated.

While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, who represented the Zionists from Eastern Europe, went to the British War Cabinet and-I am going to be brief because it's a long story, but I have all the documents to prove any statement that I make-they said: "Look here. You can yet win this war. You don't have to give up. You don't have to accept the negotiated peace offered to you now by Germany. You can win this war if the United States will come in as your ally." The United States was not in the war at that time. We were fresh; we were young; we were rich, we were powerful. They told England; "We will guarantee to bring the United States into the war as your ally, to fight with you on your side, if you will promise us Palestine after you win the war." In other words, they made a this deal: "We will get the United States into this war as your ally. The price you must pay is Palestine after you have won the war and defeated Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Trukey. "Now England had as much right to promise Palestine to anybody, as the United States would have to promise Japan to Ireland for any reason whatsoever. It's absolutely absurd that Great Britain, that never had any connection or any interest or any right in what in know as Palestine should offer it as coin of the realm to pay the Zionists for bringing the United States into the war. However, they did make that promise, in October of 1916. And shortly after that--I don't know how many here remember it--United States, which was almost totally pro-German, entered the war as Britain's ally.

I say that the United States was almost totally pro-German because the newspapers here were controlled by Jews, the bankers were Jews, all the media of mass communications in this country were controled by Jews: and they, the Jews, were pro-German. They were pro-German because many of them had come from Germany, and also they wanted to see Germany lick the Czar. The Jews didn't like the Czar, and they didn't want Russia to win this war. These German-Jew bankers, like Kuhn Loeb and the other big banking firms in the United States refused to finance France or England to the extent of one dollar. They stood aside and they said: "As long as France and England are tied up with Russia, not one cent!" But they poured money into Germany, they fought beside Germany against Russia, trying to lick the Czarist regime.

Now those same Jews, when they saw the possibility of getting Palestine, went to England and they made this deal. At that time, everyting changed, like a traffic light that changed from red to green. Where the newspapers had been all pro-German, where they'd been telling the people of the fifficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, all of a sudden the Germany was no good. They were villains. They were Huns. They were shooting Red Cross nurses. They were cutting off babies's hands. They were no good. Shortly after that, Mr. Wilson declared war on Germany.

The Zionists in London had sent cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis, saying "Go to work on President Wilson. We're getting from England what we want. Now you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war." That's how the United States go into the war. We had no more interest in it; we had no more right to be in it than we have to be on the moon tonight of this room. There was absolutely no reason for World War I to be our war. We were reailroaded into-if I can be vulgar, we were suckered into-that war merely so that the Zionists of the world could obtain Palestine. That is something that the people of the United States have never been told. They never knew why we went into World War I.

After we got into the war, the Zionists went to Great Britain and they said: "Well, we performed our part of the agreement. Let's have something in writing that shows that you are going to keep your bargain and give us Palestine after you win the war." They didn't know whether the war would last another year of another ten years. So they started to work out a receipt. The receipt took the form of a letter, which was worded in very cryptic language so that the world at large wouldn't know what it was all about. And that we call the Balfour Declaration.

The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain's promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed upon as a consideration for getting the United States into the war. So this great Balfour Declaration, that you hear so much about, is just as phony as a three dollar bill. I don't think I could make it more emphatic than that.

That is where all the trouble started. The United States got in the war. The United States crushed Garmany. You know what happened. When the war ended, and the Garmans went to Paris for the Paris Peace Conference in 1919 there were 117 Jews there, as a delegation representing the Jews, headed by Bernard Baruch. I was there: I ought to know. Now what happened? "The Germans for the first time realized that they were defeated, they suffered the terrific reparatons that were slapped onto them, because the Zionists wanted Palestine and were determined to get it at any cost.

That bring us to another very interesting point. When the Germans realized this, they naturally resented it. Up to that time, the Jews had never been better of in any country in the world than they had been in Germany. You had Mr. Rathenau there, who was maybe 100 times as imprtant as industry and finance as is Bernard Baruch in this country. You had Mr. Balin, who owned the two big steamship lines, the North German Lloyd's and the Hamburg-American Lines. You had Mr. Bleichroder who was the banker for the Hohemsollem family. You had the Warburgs in Hamburg, who were the big merchant bankers--the biggest in the world. The Jews were doing very well in Germany. No question about that. The Germans felt: "Well, that was quite a sellout."

It was a sellout that might be compared to this hypothetical situation: Suppose the United States was at war with the Soviet Union. And we were winning. And we told the Soviet Union: "Well, let's quit. We offer you peace terms. Let's forget the whole thing." And all of sudden Red China came into the war as an ally of the Soviet Union. And throwing them into the war brought about our defeat. A crusing defeat, with reparations the likes of which man's imagination cannot encompass. Imagine, then, after that defeat, if we found out that it was the Chinese in this country, our Chinese citizens, who all the time we had thought were loyal citizens working with us, were selling us out to the Soviet Union and that it was throught them that Red China was brought into the war against us. How would we feel, then, in the United States against Ghinese? I don't think that one of them would dare show his face on any street. There woldn't be enough convenient lampposts to take care of them. Imagine how we would feel.

Well, that's how the Germans felt towards these Jews. They'd been so nice to them from 1905 on, when the first Communist revolution in Russia failed, and the Jews had to scramble our of Russia, they went to Germany. And Germany gave them refuge. And they were treated very nicely. And there they had sold Germany down the river for no reason at all other than the fact that they wanted Palestine as a so-called "Jewish commonwhealth".

Now Nahum Sokolov, and all the great leaders and great names that you read about in conneciton with Zionism today, in 1919, 1920, 1921, and 1923 wrote in all their paper-and press was filled with their statements-that the feeling against the Jews in Germany is due to the fact that they realized that this great defeat was brought about by Jewish intercession in bringing the United States into the war. The Jews themselves admitted that. It wasn't that the Germans in 1919 descovered that a glass of Jewish blood tasted better than Coca-Cola or Muenshner Beer. There was no religious feeling. There was no sentiment against those people merely on account of their religious belief. It was all political. It was economica. It was anything but religious. Nobody cared in Germany whether a Jew went home and pulled down the shades and said "Shema' Ysroel' or "Our Father." Nobody cared in Germany any more they do in the United States. Now this feeling that developed later in Germany was due to one thing: the Germans held the Jews responsible for their crushing defeat.

And World War I had been started against Germany for no reason for which Germany was responsible. They were guilty of nothing. Only of being successful. They built up a big navy. They built up world trade. You must remember that Germany at the time of the French Revolution consisted of 300 small city-states, principalities, dudedoms, and so forth. Three hundred separate little political entities. And between that time, between the times of Napaleon and Bismarck, they were consolidated into one state. And within 50 years they became one of the world's great powers. Their navy was rivaling Great Britain's. They were doing business all over the world, they could undersell anybody, they could make better products. What happened as a result of that?

There was conspiracy between England, France, and Russia to slap down Germany. There isn't one historian in the world who can find a valid reason why those three countries decided to wipe Germany off the map politically.

When Germany realized that the Jews were responsible for her defeat, they naturally resented it. But ont a hair of the head of any Jew harmed. Not a single hair. Professor Tansill, of Georgtown University, who had access to all the secret papers of the State Department, wrote in his book, and quoted from a State Department document written by Hugo Schoemfelt, a Jew whom Cordell Hull sent to Europe in 1933 to investigate the so-called camps of political prisoners, who wrote back that he found them in very fine condition. They were in excellent shape, whith everybody treated well. And they were filled with Communists. Well, a lot of them were Jews, because the Jews happened to comprise about 98 per cent of the Communists in Europe at that time. And there were some priests there, and ministers, and labor leaders, and Masons, and others who had international affiliations.

Some background is in order. In 1918-1919 the Communists took over the Bavaria for few days. Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht and a group of other Jews took over the governemnt for three days. In fact, when the Keiser ended the war he fled to Holland because he thought the Communists were going to take over Germany as they did Russia and that he was going to meet the same fate as the Czar. So he fled to Holland for safety, for security. After the Communists threat in Germany was quashed, the Jews were still working, trying to get back into their former status, and the Germans fought them in every way they could without hurting a single hair on anyone's head. They fought them the same say that, in this country, the Prohibitionists fought anyone who was interested in liquor. They didn't fight on another with pistols. Well, that's the way they were fighing the Jews in Germany. And at that time, mind you, there were 80 to 90 million Germans, and there were only 460,000 Jews. About one half of one per cent of the population of Germany were Jews. And yet they controlled all the press, and they countrolled most of the economy because they had come in sheap money when the mark was devaulted and bought up practically everyting. The Jews tried to keep a lid on this fact. They didn't want the world to really understand that they had sold out Germany, and that the Germans resented that.

The Germans took appropriate action against the Jews. They, shall i say, discriminated against them wherever they could. They shunned them. The same way that we would shun the Chinese, or the Negros, or the Catholics, or anyone in this country who has sold us out to an enemy and brought about our defeat.

After a while, the Jews of the world called a meeting in Amsterdam. Jews from every country in the world attended this meeting in July 1933. And they said to Germany: "You fire Hitler, and you put every Jew back into his former position, whether he was a Communist or no matter what he was. You can't treat us that way. And we, the Jews of the world, are serving an ultimatum upon you." You can imagine what the Germans told them. So what did the Jews do?


will be continued
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 21st February 2002, 05:47
jutka jutka is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Toronto
Posts: 6,320
Ann,

Don't include what agent just wrote here. Trust me. Type in "Russian revolution". "October Revolution", "Bolsheviks" or "Lenin" into a search engine and you will get some good information. Or just wait until someone else comes to help you out. If anyone tells you there was no Russian Revolution, just move on.

Jutka
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 21st February 2002, 06:02
AgentOO7 AgentOO7 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 95
Post Zionism Versus Bolshevism

by Winston Churchill
Illustrated Sunday Herald
February 8, 1920, page 5

...There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and an the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution: by these international and for the msot part atheistical Jews. It is certaily a very great one; it probably outweights all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews(now it's proven that Lenin was part Jew). Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his norminal subordi-nate Litivinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel(Petrograd), or of Krassin or Redek---all Jews. In the Soviet institutions the predominace of Jews is even more astonishing. And the promined, if not indedd the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses. The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany(especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to pray upon the temporary prostration of the Garman people. Although in all these countries there are many non-Jews every whit as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing.

Needless to say, the most intense passions of revenge have been exited in the breasts of the Russian people. Wherever General Denikin's authority could reach, protection was always accorded to the Jewish popula-tion, and strenous efforts were made by his officers to prevent reprisals and to punish those guilty of them. So much was this the case that the Petlurist propaganda against General Denikin denounced him as the Protector of the Jews.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 21st February 2002, 06:06
AgentOO7 AgentOO7 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 95
Post

http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-referenc...-900quotes.htm
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 21st February 2002, 06:48
AgentOO7 AgentOO7 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 95
jutka,

what is right, is not always populat-what is popular, is not always right. the world isn't flat anymore and the people refuse to be brainwashed by the same mass-media. one way or another, the truth will come out. but the maind question is, why don't you want the truth to come out? are you a russian jew, by any chance? it took only 5 minutes from you to read that long article and to advise Ann to ignore it???

why??? can you come forward with a counter-argument instead of making baseless comments?
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 21st February 2002, 06:55
jutka jutka is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Toronto
Posts: 6,320
I read pretty fast. Is there a problem with that? And I can see things for what they are.

It only took one little reply from me for you to show your true colours.

It's not your business what my background is. Why in the world would you think I'm a Russian Jew? Well? Explain why you made such a quick assumption.

Let the girl write a normal paper without this "Jews are taking over the world" conspiracy bull.

Why don't you post this on the Open Board instead of here, trying to misinform little girls?

Are you going to tell her that the Holocaust never happened too? Well? What do you think about the Holocaust? Is it another Jewish Conspiracy?
__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT +3. The time now is 07:08.

All Rights Reserved © 1995 - | NewMedia Holdings, Inc. The Russia Channel is operated under license to Paley Media, Inc. which is solely responsible for its content. All trademarks and web sites that appear throughout this site are the property of their respective owners. No part of this site shall be reproduced, copied, or otherwise distributed without the express, written consent of Paley Media, Inc. This site is not affiliated with any government entity associated with a name similar to the site domain name.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC4 © 2006, Crawlability, Inc.