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Old 1st November 2002, 16:18
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I've just watched K-19 today and I'm full of excitement, pain and I don't know what else. I was really deeply impressed by this movie. I can understand why Europeans and Americans didn't like it. They got used to see Russians in eastern movies always rude, drunken with Kalashnikov weapon. Finally, we are shown as we are. As we were, at least. And as we trying to be.
I'm proud for my people, and I'm sorry for my government that didn't treat those heroes as they deserved.
Thanks to Katherine Bigelow and to all actors.
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Old 2nd November 2002, 02:00
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Agreed!

But I was mad because I thought it made the Russian technology look even worse than it was. It showed that nothing worked as planned...etc. Anyone who has watched a MIG 29 fly can attest to how well Russian machinery runs.

It was a great movie though. Now go watch Birthday Girl and tell us what you think.
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Old 2nd November 2002, 20:36
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I thought that K-19 was the most non-biased (in favour of Americans)film I have seen on the subject of the Cold War.
Unlike another history-based film, Thirteen Days, where the Russians were depicted as the common enemy, the film gave us a clean view of Russia's part in the conflict.
The film was obviously well researched and the directors ought to be given credit on letting cinemagoers have a nice change from Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan films. I had a splendid time learning real events of the Cold War.
By the way, has anyone else seen Thirteen Days?
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Old 6th January 2003, 04:19
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I know I'm posting to an older thread, but I finally got the opportunity to rent this movie. Excellent! I'll agree--about as unbiased a movie as you'll see about this subject.
X Julia-- I'm glad to have an opportunity to hear how one from your country felt about it. I think it's something that most of us can agree on, whether we're from the US or Russia. We both can lay claim to heroes who were ill treated by the governments they served. I loved seeing Russian soldiers being depicted as just that--people serving their country, doing so to the best of their ability, and proud of it.

For the record, my husband's family came from Russia during a violent time period (before the cold war). Unfortunately, there was little choice for them. Even thought they are Americans, they have not forgotten their Russian roots.
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Old 10th March 2003, 10:59
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K-19

I was absolutely disgusted with this movie, there were only two true facts in it 1). The bottle of champagne did not brake
2). There was an accident with one of the nuclear reactors.


The rest was utter bull crap, as it usually is in American movies about Russian soldiers.
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Old 10th March 2003, 11:41
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I like this movie. Even some kind of pathos doesn't seem too excessive. The factual mistakes are quite natural and inevitable. The intention of American cinematographers was very noble - to tell to the world about heroism of Russian sailors so who can blame them for some departures from the true story? It's rather a piece of art than a documentary. I hope one day Russian cinema will make something like this about American heroes.
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Old 12th March 2003, 11:24
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I like this movie. Even some kind of pathos doesn't seem too excessive. The factual mistakes are quite natural and inevitable. The intention of American cinematographers was very noble - to tell to the world about heroism of Russian sailors so who can blame them for some departures from the true story? It's rather a piece of art than a documentary. I hope one day Russian cinema will make something like this about American heroes.

There is no "some kind of pathos" in this movie, it is all pathos. It might not be obvious to you but it is to me, I was born in an arctic garrison city since my father is a nuclear engineer and was a serving officer of the Navy at the time. I grew up among the kind of people this movie is supposed to "portray". I see the intention of American cinematographers was to tell the world that russian naval officers are undisciplined drunkards and dolts, russian designers - idiots, russian sailors useless cowards who can't even hold a wrench let alone conduct a training exercise.
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