MARILYN MANSON

[sikpuppy666]

Hay im new hear and was reading thro the recent posts...Manson is an amazing artist and for those who dont appriciate that should fu(< off...You wouldnt know good music if it hit you in the head with a 6inch platform boot, i bet you havnt even seen a show or met the guy, he is one of the nicest and funniest guys allive (pogo is a fkn crazy beast! he tried to lick inside my nose)..the people that wrote in posts that called him crap and fked up should go die!!!!

[hellcaptive]

Originally posted by Mercury_SS

Marilyn Manson is a sick devil worshiper that makes people go to hell...? Prove it, do you have any REAL articles that say that he worships the devil? And tell me, how does one make people go to hell? Isn't it the individual's choice whether to sin or not? Marilyn Manson is a very talented singer, who writes very deep songs, the people that do not understand the metaphors just lash out on him and call him a "bad influence", a "devil worshiper", and a "drug pusher". People also judge him because of the fact that he dresses differently and wears make up... Have you ever heard the phrase "Don't judge a book by its cover"? Have you actually heard any of his music? If not, then shut the **** up and actually back up your retarded comments with some facts.

well she may not have facts but guess I do

first of all, he does NOT worship the devil. He thinks the devil actually should worship him. He also later said that he, himself, IS the devil. enough to hate him, is it not? these are from REAL articles with his own quotes and if I can scan them or find them online I can even post them here.

well it is tru that he cant MAKE ppl to go to hell, but he can actually persuade them and it is a fact that some overly obsessed fans are ready to even kill themselves if he tells them to do so. I dont think its really all his fault tho

I think 'deep' is but a point of view and we dont necessarily have to share your point of view do we? plus according to what exactly is he 'talented'? your taste of music? I remember you told RUSSIAN CHICK to give you facts for her comments and I think your taste of music is not really considered a FACT is it?

since I also am called a devil worshiper by many people including my own parents only cos of my clothes and makeup, I dont usually "judge a book by its cover" But the things he does all the time like critisizing God are only causing ppl to think he is but a devil worshiper, and we cannot blame RUSSIAN CHICK can we?

By the way, it is everyones right to comment on all they want and you have no right to tell anyone to back up for doin so. actually, this is a place where everyone can comment on things, not argue. Plus even is she is a retarded, which I dont really think so, you are not the actual one to judge are you? nobody is. you have your rights, like she has hers and I have mine.

since I proved RUSSIAN CHICKs point, if you can do nothing better than to swear at her or me, then you are the actual one to shut the *** up!

[hellcaptive]

Originally posted by demented_little_fuka
Religion is responsible for the death, pain, and suffering of millions. Everywhere you look today - Northern Island, Israel, Kosovo.. all these major disputes are in the name of 'god'.
Why should we believe in a god that doesnt believe in us?

I think it is not religion that is responsible for all the misery we suffer, but those who abuse it.
look back in the history and you'll see that all rulers who wanna avoid being questioned abuse the faith of the ppl
and we can see this still happens all over the world - those things you point out can be in the name of God but the actual reason of all is the benefit of little men -
God really has no say in it does he?
it is ppl who are 'evil' and religion is but a mask

[Edited by hellcaptive on 19th June 2005 at 23:27]

[Mercury_SS]

Originally posted by hellcaptive
well she may not have facts but guess I do

first of all, he does NOT worship the devil. He thinks the devil actually should worship him. He also later said that he, himself, IS the devil. enough to hate him, is it not? these are from REAL articles with his own quotes and if I can scan them or find them online I can even post them here.

well it is tru that he cant MAKE ppl to go to hell, but he can actually persuade them and it is a fact that some overly obsessed fans are ready to even kill themselves if he tells them to do so. I dont think its really all his fault tho

I think 'deep' is but a point of view and we dont necessarily have to share your point of view do we? plus according to what exactly is he 'talented'? your taste of music? I remember you told RUSSIAN CHICK to give you facts for her comments and I think your taste of music is not really considered a FACT is it?

since I also am called a devil worshiper by many people including my own parents only cos of my clothes and makeup, I dont usually "judge a book by its cover" But the things he does all the time like critisizing God are only causing ppl to think he is but a devil worshiper, and we cannot blame RUSSIAN CHICK can we?

By the way, it is everyones right to comment on all they want and you have no right to tell anyone to back up for doin so. actually, this is a place where everyone can comment on things, not argue. Plus even is she is a retarded, which I dont really think so, you are not the actual one to judge are you? nobody is. you have your rights, like she has hers and I have mine.

since I proved RUSSIAN CHICKs point, if you can do nothing better than to swear at her or me, then you are the actual one to shut the *** up! [/b]

RUSSIAN CHICKs point was that he's a devil worshiper... You just contradicted yourself, thus making you a complete hipocrite.
The only reason you're defending her moronic comments is because you're not a fan of Manson's music.
If you don't like his music, fine, everybody's different, and yes his songs are considered "deep" because of the fact that they're filled with metaphors that many people can relate to. To a lot of people he is a magnificent musician. His music is original; some of his songs are soothing and relaxing, some are loud and all-over-the-place, not something you'll hear on MTV from any other bands other than the Nine Inch Nails.
RUSSIAN CHICK is stupid enough to believe obviously false rumors, and I believe stupid people should be shunned.
Stop defending her opinion and defend yours.

[hellcaptive]

Originally posted by Mercury_SS

RUSSIAN CHICKs point was that he's a devil worshiper... You just contradicted yourself, thus making you a complete hipocrite.
The only reason you're defending her moronic comments is because you're not a fan of Manson's music.
If you don't like his music, fine, everybody's different, and yes his songs are considered "deep" because of the fact that they're filled with metaphors that many people can relate to. To a lot of people he is a magnificent musician. His music is original; some of his songs are soothing and relaxing, some are loud and all-over-the-place, not something you'll hear on MTV from any other bands other than the Nine Inch Nails.
RUSSIAN CHICK is stupid enough to believe obviously false rumors, and I believe stupid people should be shunned.
Stop defending her opinion and defend yours. [/b]

I proved her whole point except correcting one single error. I call this being objective. but if you see this as being hypocrite, then I guess theres no point in arguing you. not at all.
Yes Im defending her comments, but this is because I think they are -not completely- but almost true.
if you believe that everybodys different, then why do you keep debating us all, trying to convince us hes deep and talented? do you think we'll all change our minds only because you said so?
by the way, RUSSIAN CHICK is not the only one to believe those rumors. most people do that, and I dont really blame them. some of those people keep buying mansons CDs only because they think he really is a devil worshiper.
I would defend my own opinion but that would be pretty much the same as RUSSIAN CHICK's, only more detailed.

I know all too well that there are some people who think his music is the meaning of life. (my best friend is one of them and I think thats sad) This only shows that I have a much meaningful life. This is not an offense, but I actually pity them.

[MrsManson]

well hello, ive just come across this site and as soon as i saw all the stereotyping f.u.k.ing ass f.u.k.ers i REGISTERD! people that are against him dont kow s.h.i.t! they hear stuff about him then go off and protest agasint him, i hate it when people say he is a devil worshiper, just because he is "goth" or whatever, doesnt mean he does worship the devil, he is an individual who shares a uniform i like to say, but id say he is an individual, fullstop! and people who are against him because he is a devil worshipper, expect his fans to be the same, and people expect to not go with manson and go with the haters, be the beleiver of god, F.U.C.K. OFF WITH THAT!! let people want them what they want to be! and people who are against him shouldnt listen to his music! DUH!! isnt that rather stupid? every one has there own opinion, and ive said mine!

[hellcaptive]

Originally posted by MrsManson
well hello, ive just come across this site and as soon as i saw all the stereotyping f.u.k.ing ass f.u.k.ers i REGISTERD! people that are against him dont kow s.h.i.t! they hear stuff about him then go off and protest agasint him, i hate it when people say he is a devil worshiper, just because he is "goth" or whatever, doesnt mean he does worship the devil, he is an individual who shares a uniform i like to say, but id say he is an individual, fullstop! and people who are against him because he is a devil worshipper, expect his fans to be the same, and people expect to not go with manson and go with the haters, be the beleiver of god, F.U.C.K. OFF WITH THAT!! let people want them what they want to be! and people who are against him shouldnt listen to his music! DUH!! isnt that rather stupid? every one has there own opinion, and ive said mine!

well if those "stereotyping fuking ass fukers" of yours include me, then guess I'll have to object your "opinion".

first of all, since I judge people by WHO the are not WHAT they are, stereotyping wud be the last thing Id do.
second of all, I do know quite a deal about him - my best friend is one of his overly obsessed fans as I said b4. to me, the truth about him is even sicker than all those fake rumors - and trust me - Id hate him less if he did worship the devil.
since I myself am a goth, I know all too well what a goth is and that goths dont necessarily have to worship the devil. the problem is - I think you are the actual one who has no idea about it. stereotyping people like you often think black clothes and makeup makes you a goth. they dont understand that it is a lifestyle and wearing black is but a symbol. so from your point of view, manson can be gothic, but from mine, black makeup is all that he has in common with a goth.
no, I dont at all think all his fans are like him. I got lotsa friends who -in a way- worship manson but I havent seen any of them tearing or burning bibles! one of them is actually pretty religious!?!

you see, I think quite differently than most manson haters. and Im pretty sure that they think differently than each other as well. this is what makes us individuals - that we all have different personalities and opinions on things. so you are the one who is making generalizations - which shows that you are the actual one whos stereotyping, am I wrong?

[Edited by hellcaptive on 18th July 2005 at 07:31]