Why World War II Vet Deserve No Respect Or Monuments

[FerencPuskas]

Germany invaded Poland, USSR, Balkans etc and declared war on USA.
Allies fought war of self-defence, self-defence is basic human right.
People who died saving their homelands from moron goosesteppers are deserving of memorial not just in monuments but in minds of people they saved, like yourself Armelius.

[Armelius]

Sorry to bust your bubble but I never complained. When I said no, that is what I meant. No one no matter what rank could send me in harms way or to a screwed up position unless I allowed it and I didn't allow for screw ups.

Main idiots were not knowing how to clear a m60 or stupid cleaning weapon on post. Had about seven brushes with death and three of them were idiots of lower ranks.

Quite a few times when I said no, I redirected main forces to the proper place and if anything I would get a verbal chewing from higher ups for disobeying-big deal.

About the only one's I knew that didn't want to be around me were the staff seargants with five kids getting food stamps. Sorry, but I had very little respect for retards and I think I was in good company.

Military is true socialism anyways. Only an idiot would want to make it a career.

When I told the Lt. in front of many others that if they called me back for some gulf war I would make it a personal war they knew I meant it.

You want to make some camel jockey royalty rich? You go right ahead but I am not going to do it for a few thousand a month.

It's nice though to get serious offers of six grand a month to do security duties in kuwait and no stupid taxes.

Hey durak. If I was so foolish why did I have more paid leave, at one time up to 92 days in a row, than anyone else I knew in the military?

Six months back in the states I had orders for Ramstein. Yeah, I didn't conform, lol.

[limey_defence]

What's the difference between what Hitler would of made and you have now.

National Socialism would of got rid of all races except Anglo-Saxon, Gaul or Viking descendent in any country they occupied. National Service would still be in place 2 years at the age of 18 you would serve in the military whether there was a war or not. Smoking would be made illegal. Homosexuality, illegal. Probably no votes outside of the party, as a standard citizen you would not have say.
No right to speak against the government. Any up roar would be instant death. Your disagreement of the military while in service as you claim you did would not be allowed, you would be shot.

Apart from that it'd probably be better than what it is now.

[Armelius]

Originally posted by limey_defence
What's the difference between what Hitler would of made and you have now.

National Socialism would of got rid of all races except Anglo-Saxon, Gaul or Viking descendent in any country they occupied. National Service would still be in place 2 years at the age of 18 you would serve in the military whether there was a war or not. Smoking would be made illegal. Homosexuality, illegal. Probably no votes outside of the party, as a standard citizen you would not have say.
No right to speak against the government. Any up roar would be instant death. Your disagreement of the military while in service as you claim you did would not be allowed, you would be shot.

Apart from that it'd probably be better than what it is now.

Disagree with your first sentence. Germans were trying to get a foothold in Africa and were probably the kindest of all europeans to the peoples of the dark continent. Hitler also had respect for native americans, the largest museum of native american artifacts and culture in Europe is in Berlin. Supposedly they tried to get Mexico in Axis powers so you might be off on your race elimination charges. Smoking is illegal in all public buildings (or ones that have licenses) here in New York, California, Florida, and a few others to include Utah.

Homosexuality is still illegal through sodomy laws in nearly every state except for maybe Texas, where all there are is steers and queers.

Democrats and Republicans not much difference might as well be one party. Both going to be run by Skull and Bones (which reminds me of some nazi symbol).

I was in charge of flight quality control (not admin though) and I had a lot of sway. I don't think anyone would intentionally kill me even the people that I was at odds. Really to hard for me to comment on if Nazi's would of killed me. I would seriously doubt it though. Back office admins were really suprised that I opted to leave the military early. I know a major and master sergeant was glad along with a few jealous people that outranked me because I got orders so fast.

Nah, if I can kill 14 members of my squad in an excercise while they are protecting nukes at close range all by myself, I don't think I would be killed off on purpose.

[Armelius]

These world war II vets are or were the biggest hypocrites too. They went against recreation drug use but when they got old they wanted that drug handout.

[limey_defence]

They were the kindest of Europeans for the dark continent? What? Where do you dig this stuff from? Britain was already in Eygpt, Italy was in Libya for your information Germany never attempted to gain a foothold in Africa until Italy was wanting help.

And why, at that moment in time, when they need all the help they could get would Germans start erasing the native population from the Earth? You'll probably find they would have become slave labour after the war.

Native American pieces in Berlin, so? Is Germany National Socialist? No, it isn't. That bears no relevence.

And your pretty little prance of an army now wouldn't resemble the army of a Nazi country. It was written into Nazi ideals, discipline, courage and valour. You disobeyed a direct order, you'd either be shot or court martialed and had fun in some military prison for a long time. You want do what's needed, they don't need you. Expendable.

[Armelius]

Originally posted by limey_defence
They were the kindest of Europeans for the dark continent? What? Where do you dig this stuff from? Britain was already in Eygpt, Italy was in Libya for your information Germany never attempted to gain a foothold in Africa until Italy was wanting help.

And why, at that moment in time, when they need all the help they could get would Germans start erasing the native population from the Earth? You'll probably find they would have become slave labour after the war.

Native American pieces in Berlin, so? Is Germany National Socialist? No, it isn't. That bears no relevence.

And your pretty little prance of an army now wouldn't resemble the army of a Nazi country. It was written into Nazi ideals, discipline, courage and valour. You disobeyed a direct order, you'd either be shot or court martialed and had fun in some military prison for a long time. You want do what's needed, they don't need you. Expendable.

Are you forgetting 400 years of European slavery over 70 years of Germany? Who erased who? Let's talk billions please. You know how many captives blacks wound up as shark bait?

I think your phony you don't know dammit about german culture. Evidently there were plenty in Nazi high command who didn't want to follow Hitler's orders, maybe you could explain the assasination attempt in detail. Explain Oscar Shindler and his relationship with nazi generals.

I really don't think you experianced a battle first hand. You want to know how promotions work? Go experiance a battle and get to know what a field promotion means.

Look at all those officers at Pearl Harbor who disobeyed orders from washington, getting people killed.

The military doesn't always act as a group. Your higher ups that screw up and you correct their mistake, you think they are going to bring charges on you? Hell no. It would just make them look bad.

The military as well as any socialist regime hates the enexperiance person proving them wrong.

Just look at the movie Gattica.

Most germans like many wwII vets followed directives from the state and that is their problem, that is why they are not the greatest generation, they brought forth an entreched form of socialism that is in every country.

You think any of them promoted freedom? They were no different than the nazi's they were fighting.

Tell me when equal rights, martin luther king, and when australians let in non-whites all happened.

Just tell me how many german farmers owned slaves or (while germany was a country) which germans abused which africans.