Why World War II Vet Deserve No Respect Or Monuments

[Armelius]

They are not the "Greatest Generation" as proclaimed by Tom Brokaw in his book of the same name.

These vet's and their spouses were all about obeying the state. It doesn't matter what country they were born. Even today 60 some odd years after the war they are still lieing to themselves and to everyone saying they accomplished something, when in truth the war brought the conservative fascist to power to nearly every country in the world, with the exception of a brief experimentation of freedom in the late 70's (hard to believe that the 70's were know for something good).

Now their new world order is complete with a society entrenched with near complete obeyence that doesn't question the government or it's control over nearly all aspects of everyone's lives.

Just open a newspaper and dismiss every occupation that doesn't need a license that would be nearly 80 percent of all jobs.

These elderly people's brought this on to their sons and grandsons so the selfish can retire in luxury living on a social security system based off the backs of the young.

When you are older (if you don't live in a socialist country already-more likely you do) you will not be able to retire with the new car and house knowing everything is taken care of by the wise state.

[limey_defence]

It was those soldiers you are complaining about that fought for your right to complain. You wouldn't have that if it wasn't for them.

I hate Socialist too, but what the world has become you can't blame on those that defended their country. It's amazing how much disrepect one person can have.

[Niquie]

Good. You can probably thank one or two WW II veterans for that.

You know, I never ceased to be amazed at the loquaciousness of those inexperienced in life to tell you how history SHOULD have been lived.

[CastleStormer]

More verbal diarreah from armelius. All veterans should be honored...period. Those who show courage should receive monuments. Coward armchair quarterbacks who spend all day complaining, yet have paid the price for NOTHING, are just empty words spewing forth from empty souls.

Would you have had the guts to hit the beach at Normandy armelius? I doubt it. Guys like you get fragged to make room for heroic warriors in the foxholes.

[Armelius]

I am a veteran and I don't require any monument to my service. No other veteran fought for my right to say as I may. Only I do that. I would do it in any country oppressed by soldiers or not. You mean to tell me before world war II no one complained? World war I vets were suppressed for speaking out by world war II vets to include Patton and Eisenhower.

I have been to Normandy and saw the monuments to world war II soldiers and their graves and not to far from that were camera's everywhere from the French Rivera to Paris. Did those men die to be some statistic in a real life Orwellian 1984? Or did they fight for their own brand of socialism?
Certainly none of them fought for freedom because when they became vets they still had separate but equal laws, blacks and latinos were second class citizens, and there was even more of a push for people to get licenses to work in a free society.

Not one wwII vet did anything to promote freedom anywhere in the world. Korea had more respectable vets but to what ends? There is not freedom in south or north korea. When students take to the streets they are quickly suppressed by the police state. Vietnam was a complete lost cause. Where was the freedom in european colonialism?

I saw first hand the echelon project in england and then came cameras everywhere in London as if it were france. I don't need the kind of freedom where you are monitored 24 hours a day as if a denizen of a well maintained zoo. That isn't freedom.

World War II vets are living their socialist dream living off of the backs of others akin to slavery. What happens to the people who are not part of the priveledged classes? Jail. State operated health care with iron bars and 24 hour supervision.

The prisons are filling up with young people while the wwII vets are dieing in their supervised state supported retirement homes. If not they are happy in their new cars, with the house, and no job. They are happy for their sacrifice to their branded socialism.

Submit to the state, obey the state, and become the state that would be a world war II veteran's motto.

[limey_defence]

People certainly complained before World War 2, and they got beaten over the head as well. You want to know why London and the rest of Britain is watched 24 hours a day? It's because without them it would be a criminals haven, only criminals complain about the cameras.

If the Japanese or Germans would of won that war, you wouldn't of been able to speak out. It's like saying that you'd be able to speak out in Chile under the dictatorship, the Junta would soon take you away and you'd just be the disappeared.

The soldier fought for your rights to complain, you should respect them. If you're a War veteran, what war?

[Armelius]

Let me guess. The UK is really a prison for Europe's criminals? No. Australia. No. Elba. No. Tasmania. No.

Chile? They were are allies. Why would ITT support the junta to silence dissidents?

No soldier fought for my right to complain. Soldiers usually are not supposed to complain. I am one of the few that said no to my superiors and got away with it. And none of my fellow soldiers stood by me. No supervisor nothing. Why would they fight for me to say things against the grain now? No, they fight for their weak welfare check and to fulfill their contract.

Japanese and Germans would not and could not win that war. Yamamoto knew it and Hitler knew it as well as every european leader from every country except poland.

I don't think I fought for anything but my freedom. But you can call it the cold war and some idiotic police actions in central america.

The happiest time of my life was when I left the military, though was four years inactive duty. I told them to put me on a do not call list for their upcoming gulf war for kuwaiti royalty reinstatement.