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Old 12th May 2004, 15:31
Gregz Gregz is offline
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That should mean that i can blame other USA citizens and British citizens for what happened in torture in Iraq? Because the people from USA and Great Britain should have stopped those extremes dead in their tracks Gregz?

You can indeed and should however at least they are not chopping peoples heads off.

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Old 12th May 2004, 17:59
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When you invade sovereign country and individuals unlawfully such as vietnam or iraq, you should expect such treatment on a regular basis.

Shock and awe you get what you deserve.
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Old 12th May 2004, 18:23
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Armelius, thats untrue also what u say there, partly i agree, but invasion of a foreign country takes places by military personal, not bu civilians of companies that are in most cases there to help rebuild what was lost during the long period of dictatorship in Iraq.
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Old 12th May 2004, 21:20
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Excuse me, don't even bring British forces into this. They haven't commited any abuse, although people are trying to claim otherwise. There is no proof.
Did people think of the rights of those in the WTC and the Pentagon, and all those others killed by these people before the Invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan?

'An eye for an eye and everyone will go blind' well, the Iraqis obviously never heard this. The Americans obviously have because they could be doing a lot worse.
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Old 12th May 2004, 21:40
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Limey there are amnesty international reports on civilian casualties that happened in non hostile situations, the casualties made by british personal.

One of them an 8 yr old girl that was playing and that got shot by a british soldier.

So dont tell me there is no abuse by british soldiers, if it wasnt there there would be no report on this by Amnesty International.

u can find the text here:
http://news.amnesty.org/mav/index/ENGMDE140192004
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Old 12th May 2004, 22:10
Tavaros_the_Greek Tavaros_the_Greek is offline
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big deal if there are abuses in Iraq,there is a war going on there,and if you want my opinion in a war everything is justified

there are abuses from both sides,the question is not how to stop the abuses,but how to stop the war,a war which I dont think that is going to end soon
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Old 12th May 2004, 22:34
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There are things like geneva conventions that civilised countries tend to keep to.

USA as wel as the UK have signed this convention and have to keep to it.

You cannot be serious and say this about a little girl 8 years old man, are u a descendant of greek civilisation tavaros? or did just something go wrong in bringing ethical values to your mind?
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