Beheading of U.S. Civilian in Iraq

[Tavaros_the_Greek]

ok,we are going to hear a lot of this kind of stories,about young girls or young boys,being killed or raped,etc,many of them could be just fake propaganda

I just say that there is a war going on,and in a war the logical stops

So dont just look at the tree and miss the forest,the big question here is, if this war can be stopped soon or not,bad examples like the above with the girl, they are going to happen a lot more..

as for what you said about "my greek civilization"..yes I am Greek but this doesnt mean that I am a saint..

Indeed many things like this will happen, but we as civilised western countries have to show that we stand above such ways and wont do it....

That is the only path of the righteous

[limey_defence]

Durak, don't try and come to me with this Amnesty International crap, I know the 8 year old girl was shot by British forces. And this means what?
The British were under fire, attacked and opened fire. The girl was unlucky, do you actually believe that British troops are so sick that they'd shoot an eight year old girl?
Maybe even starting to believe that British troops are starting to enjoy it, well they don't but they put themselves through it anyway. You're sick.

British troops, and Americans on a whole, do the best they can in a situation that is not in their favour. They joined the military to serve their country, and know they get **** on by the people they are fighting for. They have less rights now than the Iraqis.

And I'd like people to read the Geneva agreement, and then tell me everything that Britain is doing wrong. Plus, the Geneva Convention was for War time situations, that means the prisoners would have to be PoWs, not Terrorists.
The Geneva Convention states you can go under civilian clothes as a disguise but you cannot fight under it, the same rule applies for enemy disguise. If Iraq doesn't fight to it, why should we? Because of goodwill?

Plus putting heads over captives, even throwing water on them is acceptable. British forces are trained for it, they have it done to them in their training. If our troops are trained for it, and theirs aren't it's there problem. Leftists have no right to tell the forces what's right, and what's wrong.

[TiraChitra]

I read the story this morning in the Sacramento Bee. They showed a picture of the vicitm's father crying and hugging his daughter, while his other son looked on with tears in his eyes. They found out yesterday.

Some idiot American soldiers abuse Iraqi prisoners by humiliation and beating. So, the Iraqi's decide to get even by beheading and killing an American.

We admit we are wrong. It is all over the media, and the Americans are genuinly sorry and shocked over the treatment of the Iraqi prisoners. But the Iraqi's are NOT sorry, and they are much crueler. Pure evil.

When is this war going to end? How many friends do I have to see go off to war? How many more of my people are going to die?

[C-Force]

Originally posted by Gregz
Bodrie

Europe is insecure with 10 million plus Muslims and other cultrally subversive groups of people currently within it's borders. What are we to do?

Gregz

In my opinion about the torture of iraqi prisoners, the only mistake the americans made was to get caught, but they do deserve whatever comes to them for being so stupid as to take photos of it; those idiots.

I don't support torture but I accept it as a part of war and I won't go crying like a wuss when I see it happening to iraqis or americans. If I was an american soldier over there and I was captured I would expect it to happen to me and I couldn't complain.

These lowly army personell being accused are nothing but scapegoats, for even if they didn't have 'direct' orders from above this is definately standart practice. The iraqis would do the same thing to us and justifiably so. We did it in vietnam and we'll do it in iraq, has there ever been a war without it?. It's the only way to get information from prisoners, not even the most hardened man can stay silent for long whilst being tortured. Everyone should stop trying to act like war is a civilized affair.

[limey_defence]

From what wasn't edited, he does have a point. People act like war is a civilisd event, and although there are certain rules and codes by which decent people abide in the act of war. It is killing and killing does happen, and will happen.
What those Americans did was to break moral, and if it amused them and increased their moral so be it. It's an act of war, and the British military, and I imagine the American military are trained to expect such punishment if caught.

[C-Force]

Originally posted by limey_defence
the Geneva Convention was for War time situations, that means the prisoners would have to be PoWs, not Terrorists.

Sorry dude, the americans and british (maybe not officially, but have nevertheless) 'declared war on terror'. So the terrorists have to be treated as POWs with all the rights that come with that. Why is this important? Because declaring 'war' on terror officially places (at least america anyway) us in a 'war state', which means that the government is able to take certain privileges which would under any other situation violate our constitutional rights, such as less restrictions on privacy etc...

My only point is that if we're going to do one thing we should go all the way through with it. Otherwise we'd just be hypocrites, no? It's a personal philosophy that applies to all other aspects of life as well.