no trust between our countries yet

[ILay]

a day ago 12 Russian 'il-76 "humpbacked"' landed at Kabul.

American officials were expecting just 6 planes.
For other 6 the permission was given then they were in the air already.

Plus, the surveillance jets were not expected at all.

Later, then the ils were discharged, on the same airport 5 US 'Hercules' planes landed.

As per info from the place, then the Russian crews started watching what the marines are discharching (same airport), Americans smoothely placed flood-lights across the Hercules aircrafts and directed them on Russians.

[Texas]

I would like to think that the Americans would do the same to anybody.....not just Russians...who were watching them unload possibly sensitive military cargo. But I would also wish that we work together and forget the "Cold War" mentality.

[ILay]

Texas

you know Tex, trust is a kind of a trigger - either you have it or no.

The lights were directed on Russians only.
Some colonel gave an order...

While the Afghani assisting personall could do whatever they liked..

Should I tell where the assisting personal came from...

Our governments, despite all the fancy meetings and nice talks, do not trust each other .. still.

[Texas]

Well its a start Ilay, but I'm afraid both sides still have military commanders who were trained to distrust each other...no matter what their orders.

[ILay]

You know Tex, you're right.

The only real order you can get while you're in the field is 'act according to the circumstences'. And if you imagine an officer who was fighting US in Vietnam and American officer who figted Russians in South Africa, you will hardly get a lot of trust bbetween them.

But the issue is: do you think more trust between our nation is for benifit of the planet?

[Texas]

Originally posted by ILay
You know Tex, you're right.

The only real order you can get while you're in the field is 'act according to the circumstences'. And if you imagine an officer who was fighting US in Vietnam and American officer who figted Russians in South Africa, you will hardly get a lot of trust bbetween them.

But the issue is: do you think more trust between our nation is for benifit of the planet?

Definately...more trust between two of us is needed. What most Americans still fail to realize is that Russia is a stabilizing factor in Europe and the east. Look at the chaos that has erupted since the division of Russian satellite countries....Not saying I agreed with Russia using a heavy hand in those countries politics or structure...hell we do they same thing....but without Russia some of these countries became nothing more than dictatorships or barren waste lands with no GNP or political structure to even attempt to stabilize their own country.

Now thats more than I have ever posted in Russia.com...hope I make sense

[ILay]

you do

Look at the neighboring countries of Russia.
Who has the biggest US support?

Turkmenistan - life-time presidency. The president has changed his name to Turkmenbashi - 'father of the Turkmen'
The capital city changed its name to 'Turkmenbashi' as well.

Georgia. - President, Edward Schewarnadze. Former SU foreign minister. Got power after the upheaval. Killed all of his political enemies. A biz colleague of mine - Tengiz Burchuladze was a son of former (Gamsahurdia government) Interior minister. His whole family was killed and he had to flee to Turkey with a bycicle. Present Presidient of Georgia recently supported Chechen troops to invade Russia.

Ukraine. (the country having the biggest financial support of the USA after Israel and Egypt). A year ago one jurnalist accused the President of the state of killing his enemies. The jurnalist is lost a year ago. DNA samples (done in Belgium) of the found corpe show it's him. Two Russian journalists are still kept in prison.
Stolen Russian gas worth 2 billions.
Shot Russian civil aircraft with over 80 passengers during the military drill.

Latvia: more than 40% of the population have no civil rights (as they are ethnically Russian). No right to vote, no right to be elected. ~5% were prohibited to live in Latvia as they were members of the Soviet army. The day of the Latvian SS troops was declared a national holyday.

[rhetoric] Americans, what are you doing?