Prayer and Discipline in our schools

[Monica]

I received an e-mail from a friend of mine and posted it on Nonson's site - it is rather long, I will be happy to post it here if you like.
But my questions to you are:
Do you feel prayer should be brought back to our schools?
Do you feel teachers should be allowed some sort of physical discipline to control unruly children? And if yes, what?

[Ines]

Yes, prayer for teachers...
Seriously, I think school reform task is close to impossible. Prayer and discipline are just a drop in the bucket.

[Monica]

Oh heck - I'll post it anyway.

Billy Graham's daughter was being interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen? "
And Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
She said "I believe that God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but
for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of
our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman that He
is, I believe that He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give
us His blessing and His protection if we demand that He leave us alone? "
In light of recent events. . . terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
Let's see, I think it started when Madeline Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
her body was found recently) complained she didn't want any prayer in our
schools, and we said OK.
Then, someone said you better not read the Bible in school . . . the Bible
that says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor
as yourself. And we said, OK.
Then, Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they
misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might
damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide)
And we said, an expert should know what he's talking about so we said OK.
Then, someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our
children when they misbehave. And the school administrators said no faculty
member in this school better touch a student when they misbehave because we
don't want any bad publicity, and we surely don't want to be sued (There's
big difference between disciplining and touching, beating,
smacking, humiliating, kicking, etc. ) And we said, OK.
Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want, and
they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said, OK.
Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys and they're
going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms they want, so
they can have all the fun they desire, and we won't have to tell their
parents they got them at school. And we said, OK.
Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter what we do in
private as long as we do our jobs. And agreeing with them, we said it
doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President, does in private
as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
And then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women and
call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty of the female
body. And we said, OK.
And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and published
pictures of nude children and then stepped further still by making them
available on the Internet. And we said OK, they're entitled to their free
speech.
And then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. And let's record music
that encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect, and nobody

takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they
don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill
strangers, their classmates, and themselves.
Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW. "
"Dear God, Why didn't you save the little girl killed in her classroom? "
Sincerely, Concerned Student. . . AND THE REPLY "Dear Concerned Student, I am
not allowed in schools. " Sincerely, God.
Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the
world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but
question what the Bible says.
Funny how everyone wants to go to heaven provided they do not have to
believe, think, say, or do anything the Bible says.
Funny how someone can say "I believe in God" but still follow Satan who, by
the way, also "believes" in God.
Funny how we are quick to judge but not to be judged.
Funny how you can send a thousand 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread
like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,
people think twice about sharing.
Funny how the lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene pass freely through
cyberspace, but the public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and
workplace.
Funny how someone can be so fired up for Christ on Sunday, but be an
invisible Christian the rest of the week.

[Texas]

Prayer isnt an issue with me....
But discipline is. They beat our ass (within reason) when we got unruly in school. Then years later the crying libs and those that believed that corporal punishment was "unfair" to the child and might possibly hinder that child development, fought to have corporal punishment removed and discipline in schools went down the drain. These are formative years and the threat (knowledge) of punishment for your actions remain with most children a lifetime, therefore teaching some sense of right and wrong, even if the parents lack that teaching ethic.

[Monica]

LOL
You went to catholic school didn't you?
Yes I remember the good ole days when a metal ruler across the knuckles in the dead of winter was threatened and used if we spoke in line up.
I can still type and still speak my mind when I have to!

[Ines]

I went to Russian school, there the scariest thing on earth was to be sent to the Principal's office, you know why? He would call your parents and then THEY would beat you!!!
(never happened to me, I was too scared to dosappoint my father, who thought I was a little angel )

[Monica]

LOL
Another parent buffaloed!