12th May 2002, 05:40
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http://www.masada2000.org/index.html
The reality being evaded is that Israel’s yearning for peace was shared neither by the Arab world in general nor by the Palestinians in particular. Their rejection to Israel's overtures had nothing at all to do with what Israel had done or failed to do... but to the very fact that Israel existed! BIRTH OF ANATION. Alongside (or Upon the Ashes of) Israel? November 7, 1993 Efraim Ayoubi was driving to Kiryat Arba. His was passed by an Arab car which pumped thirty slugs into him. Ayoubi died instantly, leaving a pregnant wife and four children. "All We Are Saying is Give Peace a Chance!" February 10, 1994 Naftali Sahar, a 75 year old citrus grower, was beaten to death with an iron bar in his orchard near Kibbutz Na'an. "All We Are Saying is Give Peace a Chance!" February 25, 1994 Sam Eisenstadt, age 80, was chopped up with an axe in the center of Kfar Saba. "All We Are Saying is Give Peace a Chance!" April 9, 1995 Alisa Flatow, 20, was riding a public (Jewish) bus near the Israeli settlement of Kfar Darom when an Arab suicide bomber plowed his car into that bus. Alisa and seven Israeli soldiers, all under the age of 21, were killed. Alisa was one of 20 AMERICAN victims of the so-called "Peace" process! "All We Are Saying is Give Peace a Chance!" August 21, 1995 Five Israelis were killed and at least 100 injured when an Arab bomb ripped apart a bus in a residential neighborhood of Jerusalem... the City of Peace! Jews should start riding ARAB buses. After all, have you ever heard of an Arab bus being shot at or blown up by Jews!!! Meanwhile, "All We Are Saying is Give Peace a Chance!" March 4, 1996 A suicide bomber killed at least 10 people and and wounded at least 35 others. The Arab bomber, with explosives strapped to his body, blew himself up in the street near the indoor mall known as Dizengoff Center. "All We Are Saying is Give Peace a Chance!" July 30, 1997 16 people were killed and 178 wounded in two consecutive suicide bombings in the Mahane Yehuda market in Jerusalem: "All We Are Saying is Give Peace a Chance!" February 14, 2001 Arab Palestinian bus driver authorized to transport workers from Gaza into Israel Proper plows his bus into a crowd of Jews at a bus stop. Killed instantly were 7 young I.D.F. soldiers, a "non-combatant" Jewish girl, and 17 others sustaining moderate to serious injuries. The Arab murderer was not a member of any radical Palestinian group. He was just one of the ordinary Jew-haters from their sick society! "All We Are Saying is Give Peace a Chance!" For more specific details of this massacre click HERE June 6, 2001 ... 34 years to the day after the start of the Six Day War in which Israel taught the Arabs a lesson they THOUGHT the latter would never forget. And the Arabs never DID forget it!!! Now the Arabs are trying to teach Israel a lesson she will never forget. At left, a young Arab suicide bomber massacred 21 young Jewish teenagers and injured a hundred more outside a Tel Aviv discotheque. His father wished he had more sons to "give for Palestine" and "All We Are Saying is Give Peace a Chance!" Aug 9, 2001 ... 15 people were killed, including 7 children, and about 130 injured in a suicide bombing at the Sbarro pizzeria on the corner of King George Street and Jaffa Road in the center of Jerusalem. Hamas and the Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack. "All We Are Saying is Give Peace a Chance!" Mar 2, 2002 - 9 killed and over 50 injured in a suicide bombing, Saturday night, in the Bet Israel neighborhood in Jerusalem. The Arab terrorist bomber detonated a powerful explosive in the Ultra-Orthodox neighborhood as residents were leaving synagogues at the end of the Jewish Shabbat. The bomber stood next to a group of mothers standing with their babies in strollers at the entrance to a guesthouse. Five members of one family were killed in the blast. "All We Are Saying is Give Peace a Chance!" We at Masada2000.org realize that murdering Jews is an irresistible passion. However Israel is a tiny nation with only a 4½ million Jewish population. Equated to the U.S. population of 270 million, these terrorist incidents would equate to 300,000 shootings, bombings/attempted bombings AND ten million rock-throwing assaults ... in just seven years! Now just how long do you think the U.S. or ANY normal nation would continue negotiations with THESE kind of "peace partners?" Yet the Arab butt-licking nations of the world continue to condemn Israel for resisting these attacks and using "excessive force" against these terrorists! What a sick world we Jews must contend with! 
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12th May 2002, 05:47
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http://www.masada2000.org/agreements.html
THE HUDIBIYYA AGREEMENT  Mohammed, the 7th century founder of Islam, once signed a 10-year peace treaty with the enemy Arabian tribe of Koreish. However, after only two years into the treaty, Mohammed's military position improved whereupon he tore up this "Hudibiyya (also spelled Khudaibiya) Agreement" and slaughtered the Korei****es. The Middle East today is littered with inter-Arab peace treaties, alliances and friendship accords, not one of which has ever prevented a war! If a PA (Palestinian Authority) cabinet minister were to compare the Oslo Peace Accords between Israel and the Palestinian people to the Hudibiyya Agreement, he would be suggesting that the treaty were only a temporary truce. Not only have cabinet ministers done just that... so has the leader of the Palestinian people! Speaking to a rally of his Fatah movement in Ramallah just last November 16, 1998, Yasser Arafat said, "When we chose the peace of the brave [the Oslo and Wye Accords], we chose it with trust in the Prophet who agreed to the Treaty of Hudibiyya..." On numerous previous occasions (and certainly to be continued in the future), both Arafat and other senior PA officials have assured Arab audiences that their treaties with Israel are only "temporary truces" rather than genuine, permanent peace agreements.  This "strategy of phases" was first adopted by the PLO's National Council (Cairo, Egypt) in 1974 when it became obvious that an outright military defeat of Israel was unlikely. A policy of destruction of Israel in phases was approved by first establishing a small PLO state and then later completing the total destruction of Israel. This goal may be soon realized as Israel prepares to withdraw from portions of its ancient homeland in the name of "peace."  The Jewish people have experienced 2,000 years of expulsions, massacres, pogroms and deceptions. Their tiny reborn Jewish State has, in its 50+ years of existence, experienced seven wars with the Arabs and continuous terrorism by numerous Palestinian groups, including its peace partner... the PLO! And now Israel is officially begun arranging the terms of its own suicide in the Oslo Accords, Wye Agreement and various Camp David "weekends" retreats!
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12th May 2002, 05:50
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Thank you for labeling me as an antisemite. If you posted from Masadathen I respectfully refuse to read the post. As i said before I don't read anti Muslim or anti Jewish propaganda. Yes, I consider Masada one of them. Please read my quote above. Calling the Muslin holly book the " mass collection of madness" is considered anti Muslim by any measure. Symply hatred, nothing else. Sorry for quoting myself. Best Regards: Vorosilov
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12th May 2002, 05:52
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Bill, You should really read the site, dig deep and try to be totally neutral and just read it. There is stuff in there that I don't agree with, but for the most part the facts speak for themselves. Of course this site is pro-israel but look at the facts and documented evidence.
I am just the messenger, so please keep the safety latch on. As I have stated many times before, there is blood on all sides - but I have no tolerance for Terrorists and that is what the PLO is....murderers, sadistic butchers and hoaxters. Just recall last week's article on the phoney funeral, where the deceased kept falling out of the coffin, getting up and lying down in the casket over and over again. There are just way too many hoaxes that weigh heavily against the Palestinians. Why did Jordon kick them out?....hmmmm
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12th May 2002, 05:55
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You said that you post the fact. Where I stated that "only Israelis shoot children? My remark was somethig else. Let me find it. Best Regards: Vorosilov
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12th May 2002, 05:56
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12th May 2002, 06:05
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DEATH
OF THE OSLO PEACE PROCESS The Utopian Daydream Comes to an End! The notion that Jews and Arabs can live together on the same piece of land is pure fantasy. It was cooked up by people whose powers of reasoning are surely not anchored in reality. There is no way that two Peoples who are so different are going to be able to occupy the same turf. It would surely NOT be a marriage made in heaven. The disparities and the abyss between Jewish Civilization and a barbaric Arab culture is truly unbridgeable. Peace Now? Job Opportunities Available Immediately For Psychological Profilers of Those Peaceniks Who Want to Negotiate With Terrorists PEACEFUL CO-EXISTENCE? Peaceful Co-existence.... All the Leftist Dreamers talk about is Peaceful Co-existence. And when asked for examples of Peaceful Co-existence between Palestinians and others.... well, we're all still waiting! Moslems and Arabs have shown time and time again that they are incapable (I repeat, INCAPABLE) of living in peace with anyone in the Middle East. The PLO tried Peaceful Co-existence in Jordan but the diminutive King Hussein of Jordan realized they were not looking for Peaceful Co-existence at all but rather a violent takeover of his make-believe kingdom. So in September 1970 (so-called "Black September"), the little king did the right thing. He kicked their sorry arses out of Jordan. Oh, the poor displaced Palestinians! So the PLO went into Lebanon for some more Peaceful Co-existence. Within a short period of time they instigated a 15 year civil war against the Lebanese Christians. After all, why should the Palestinian Moslems be subjected to the humiliation of having to "share" power when they preferred FULL power. So the PLO and Lebanese Moslems joined forces against Lebanese Christians! If THIS is what Arabs do to each other, one can imagine what they'd do to the Jews of Israel! Peace Now [an off-shoot of Peace Instantly] says that if only the poor Palestinians (represented by the PLO murderers) were given the West Bank, Gaza and half of Jerusalem, there would surely be Peaceful Co-existence. It's just too bad that apparently no one has told Peace Now that the PLO was created in 1964... 3 years before ( I repeat, BEFORE ) the Arabs world would even lose control of the West Bank, Gaza and Jerusalem in the 1967 Arab-Israeli War (which THEY started)! In other words, the PLO was created to get back the land which they already had??? What silly logic... logic only some self-hating, dreamy-eyed, sniveling, hand-wringing, bone-headed Leftist Liberal egghead could come up with! I think it's about time someone informed the world that not all Jews are smart!   On October 21, 1985, former Peace Now member, Ron Levi [at left], was strolling through a forest near Jerusalem when he was shot through the head by an Arab... a bit of reality FINALLY piercing his thick Jewish skull. Poor Ron! He "felt their pain," alright... though not his own for he didn't even know what hit him! Yes, indeed! He felt the pain of those who dreamed of the day when every Jew in THEIR "Palestine" would be driven out or murdered just as he was. Because Ron would never stoop to their level, he now finds himself six feet BELOW their level and resting in "Peace Now." When will Ron and others like him ever learn.
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