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Old 14th January 2004, 11:55
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Guys, seriously. Im not kidding when I say most Russian ladies have no problem with a man in his 50's. If you dont believe me, ask Clint Eastwood. Hes 73 and married a smoking hot 30-something latina.

Lets also consider the cosmetic differences between an American 50 year old male and a Russian 50 year old male. The hard Russian lifestyle takes its toll and by 50 most Russian men are looking more like 70.

Same deal here in the Czech Republic, Ive seen men in thier mid 40's who do, without a doubt, look 70.

And AGAIN, contraray to all the self-elected "Conscience of Russia.com" types busily pointing out all the splinters in our collective eye...if its an 18 year old YOU want, then YOU go out and GET ONE!

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Old 14th January 2004, 11:57
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Re: Welcome to Russia.com

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Likewise, Welcome drcupid, you are sure to be met with some very interesting perspectives on your topic. Dont be alarmed if you notice some replies to your post making reference to your age differences. When it comes to 2 people on opposite sides of the gender range, you are sure
to receive opinions not necessarily addressing this issue as well as you. Understand this, the only reason you may
hear issues raised as regarding an age difference in this forum, is because a lack of maturity is taught & expected of the american female by society as a whole, so they rarely if ever develop a balance of responsibility untill later in life, if ever, which might explain the current state of affairs badly affecting (& infecting)this society today.
You will probably find that in other cultures, age is not
as important as character is.To Russian Ladies drcupid, you are the perfect age & they know they can expect to be treated with understanding and care by someone who has
that length of experience in life. And also, that you will be turning your attention more to them not away from them as you both progress on in time. Thanks & Have A Wonderful Day!

JosephInternetionale,

If it were not against the rules here, I would straight up call you a moron for the babble you just posted. Do you know any Russian women? Do you know ANY women? I suppose it is lucky for you that there are not too many Russian women frequenting this site.



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Old 14th January 2004, 13:04
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:-) Where do I start with all these standup comics on this site
Since I am in my 50's but in my second childhood (not in depends yet) she may be to old for me and end up as a baby-sitter :-)

Since I am a bachelor I still have high hopes of the pitter patter of little feet (I have a dog and cats so that's not what I mean!).

Be lucky this is not a Belarus message board. I noticed on a personals site they have girls from 15 wanting to marry. I don't discriminate by saying 18 - 30, I just do not expect someone that young to respond. 24 - 27 maybe. I view myself as an equal opportunity prospective husband :-) But if a cute 18 year old wanted to get married to me - well, I guess I'd find out fast how good my heart is... I'd love to prove the doctors wrong!!

An girl who latches on to me is fairly lucky (pat on my back at this point). I cook, have a steady income, even take out the trash occasionally and I'm not abusive, only drink on occasion like a brandy for the heart or a shot of wine for the stomach. I have had whiskey, rum, gin, etc sitting on the shelf for years without giving it a second thought. I prefer a pepsi or coke. I am just an average guy who wears glasses and who prefers the quiet country life but presently live in a not so quiet area.
I think you will get no problem in finding candidates. The problem will be to distinguish the honest from the scammers.
I am married to a Younger Russian women myself and it is a very good marriage. However, the difference in age is less, she was already 40. In the beginning it was difficult, she had her habits and I had mine and it took us one year to adjust. I think with a 20-30 y/o woman, this problem will be less, old habits die hard. But there will be other problems.

Good luck.
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Old 14th January 2004, 21:52
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Cool re: Voyager13B

Voyager13B,your limitations for competent advice on this issue is obvious, or else you too have a complex over alternatives to the american modern female of today.You have retreated in defense of your own misgivings by resorting to personal attacks by namecalling. You have now sir, exposed your view in this matter as worthy of being ignored, which is what i will now do.
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Old 16th January 2004, 08:28
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Voyager13B,your limitations for competent advice on this issue is obvious, or else you too have a complex over alternatives to the american modern female of today.You have retreated in defense of your own misgivings by resorting to personal attacks by namecalling. You have now sir, exposed your view in this matter as worthy of being ignored, which is what i will now do.
Joe,

I certainly have limitations, but I don't think they apply to this issue. Besides, I didn't reatreat "in defense of your own misgivings by resorting to personal attacks by namecalling". I just found your general attitude towards American women to have the same smell and taste as do most racist or xenophobic points of view, and reflected that in my response. It wasn't THAT bad, was it?

I think that (for many reasons) American family life is unraveling before our eyes. I also think that relationships are tougher than ever here. Then again, I don't blame it on every American woman. As I have said before, I think Russian women are wonderful (by and large). My closest friend is a woman who lives in Moscow, and was born in Russia. I think my few posts on the subject were clear about my concern that many foreign men view Russian women as off the shelf products that are programmed to please, and are proof against being tainted by the very society they are expected to join.

They are not either. They are women. They are individuals with distinct personalities, and except in cases of desperation, they expect to be courted and respected, rather than selected or purchased. The anti-American-woman crowd has some legitimate gripes from time to time, but they tend to be exaggerated, and the solution is far too fantastic and simplistic to stand up to reality on it's face. Read your post carefully, and aside from a number of nonsense remarks like "your the perfect age for a young Russian woman" (it's a paraphrase, but give me a break), you also made several lightly veiled personal slaps in the face pointed toward those who don't share your bubbly support for the Cupid guy.

By the way (if you are not ignoring this post), it wasn't my intention to sideline further discussion with you when I wrote my response to your comments. It seemed like an appropriate response to me at the time. It still does, as a matter of fact. At some level, the person who authored the thoughts has to be ready to be held accountable for them by those who read them. Discussion of personal thoughts are never purely academic in the sense that the topic is abstract, or that two or more people are just reporting the thoughts of others without any personal involvement.

Your thoughts may be shared by others, but as written here, they are YOURS. As are my thoughts MINE. That means that if I am willing to accept someone saying "Voyager, that was a great comment", I also have to be willing to accept when my comments shock the sensibility of a reader, and they write "Voyager, you are a moron". So do you, I expect. More than a few people here have directed "negative feedback" to my posts. I have done the same to some of their posts. Yet we are friends, and share mutual respect, and (speaking for myself) I don't hesitate jumping in to support them when we agree.

Tovar is one example. We butt heads on nearly every political issue, and have had more than two or three exchanges of grenades between us, yet I have never called for his banishment, and in fact, both of us have supported each other on matters of agreement on many occasions. Actually, it isn't the same without him here....

But I digress. The point of this novella is that I enjoy your company here, and although I won't engage you in an insult fest for it's own sake, I think it is important and healthy for a conversation to have some freedom to call someone "on the carpet" for what I consider to be outrageous personal comments. Whether you choose to ignore me or not, I will also offer my support when we are in agreement.

I hope that gives you a better perspective of what I said, and why. In any event, good luck in the personal opinion game.



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Old 16th January 2004, 10:54
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VOYAGER, Now that SIR is worthy of high regard and i am honored by your talents. I dont as a rule, encourage discontent by making sly remarks & i hope you will find that i do not take the initiative to simply offend like you know most will. Im better learned than that, and it does not fit my personality. Im a funloving simple man, and i do possess i like to think, some degree of intelligence and i try to expertly convey my messages in the modest of terms so as to allow space for a meaningful address to an issue.
If in any of my posts or replies one gets the impression that i detest all american females, then take note. My mother and grandmother both were american women, my childhood girlfriends were american women, my teachers in school were american women, if im injured in a fall or at work and in need of medical assistance, my caregivers are mostly american women.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO MY PERSONAL CHOICE FOR A LIFE PARTNER IN TODAYS WORLD WE LIVE IN 2004 i cannot in good conscience accept the norm from the american women of today, everyplace you go, even in your own neighborhood are the sad state of affairs. Girls with piercings in their nose, eyebrows, tatoos, Im not against that per say, but very great damage has been done to the disciplines once in place in our society by them and it is no less complicated to live with the results of such disregard for human life and human dignity that they enjoy imposing on the common american male.MY OPINION.
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Old 17th January 2004, 03:06
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Joe,

See, just as in cooking, a little heat and seasoning can bring out the detail and flavor of an opinion. Of course, too much can burn it, but in this case, your last reply both set a foundation for, and detailed your opinion much better than in the previous posts where you were more offering supportive agreement to another member.

I have a much better understanding of where you are "coming from" now. I also think that a casual reader now has more to consider from both sides of the issue as a result of our exchange. By the way, it's not deliberate, but sometimes I think I "ruffle the feathers" of some posters just to see if they are really offering their own thoughts, or blindly repeating something they heard that sounded good to them. In the first case, I get to enjoy a well thought reply like yours. In the second case, I get to chuckle over a discombobulated lather of four letter words and insults to my lineage. Either way, it's a learning experience, but I prefer to look forward to future discussion with the first group.



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