Vladimir Putin Delivers!!!

[HATALbR]

Whoinia:

Whatever you choose.

Sincerely,
Natalie

[HATALbR]

Whoinia:

Please re-read my last three posts in a row (20th, October).

Thank you,
Natalie

[HATALbR]

Whoinia:

1) What negative impact has this (media/television censorship) activity had on russian society?

2) Do you agree that the people who are in position to make pertinent decisions in government (and therefore impacting society et al.) have the uncensorsed information that they need to make decisions?

3) This is the "Vladimir Putin Delivers" thread; although there is freedom to post nearly whatever you like, where ever you like--wouldn't your criticisms and anti-KGB/FSB comments be more suited for, perhaps, a thread entitled "Vladimir Puin Doesn't Deliver & pent up hostilties @ the KGB/FSB?"

4) Are you probing to discover what I like about, or why I support Vladimir Putin?

5) Are you trying to make friends with me (in a diplomatic sense) or strictly to engage in political debate & sharing of viewpoints?

[Alex_Ivanov]

Originally Posted by whoinia

If you want to know what a life witness tells, I can share my thoughts and experience. If you think you know about Russia better than someone who lived there, daily reads Russian news and regularly talks to people in Russia, why even to talk me?

Well, I live in Russia, read Russian news and regulary talk to people. Do my words matter here?

Originally Posted by whoinia

Would you like the governor of your state not to be elected, but appointed by the president? This is one of the Putin’s latest “reforms”.

I could have said that governors are still elected indirectly through people representatives, and it would be truth, but I'd better say that I prefer appointment (and not only of governors, but of mayors and district heads) rather than indirect election, and I hope it will be next step.

Before 2000 most people talking on Russian discussion groups criticized Yelrsin hard, and practically none spoke in his defense. Shortly after Putin came to the office, on Russian discussions, commonly known as “forums” magically appeared many rood and aggressive Putin’s defenders, monitoring Russian discussions 24/7.

True, but it is because Yeltsin drank a lot, while country was going to hell, while Putin began to rise Russia and lives of millions improved. Does it surprise you, that he has a lot of supporters and Yeltsin had not? I see nothing illogical here.

In 1999 Yeltsin appointed Putin as the prime minister of the Russian parliament - Duma

And this is told by a person pretending to know Russia at least a little. Study structure of Russian state power, before you take part in any serious discussion.

You might have heard of the Russian TV news show NTV. It was the last news channel from where I could get uncensored news from Russia.

Last? It is well-known western fairy tale, that with new NTV owners free press in Russia died. In fact, there're still many independent (or rather dependent from moneybags, not state) stations. And nobody with access to internet ever complained about lack of independent, anti-government, and dirt-throwing articles in Russian press. Do your search.

[whoinia]

Originally Posted by Alex_Ivanov

Well, I live in Russia, read Russian news and regulary talk to people. Do my words matter here?

And this is told by a person pretending to know Russia at least a little. Study structure of Russian state power, before you take part in any serious discussion.
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На: http://www.nns.ru/Elect-99/analit/pputin/put116.html

На самом деле в судьбе Путина еще четыре месяца ничего не менялось и не поворачивалось, и, отправив в отставку премьера Евгения Примакова, ставшего слишком популярным и независимым, Ельцин назначил новым премьером министра внутренних дел Сергея Степашина. И только 9 августа 1999 года Ельцин, явно разочарованный работой Степашина, отправил и его в отставку, назначив Владимира Путина новым председателем правительства Российской Федерации.
Ну чё, обосрался? Агитпрапоришко нещасный.

Pull up the pants and wipe your snot!

[whoinia]

Originally Posted by HATALbR

Whoinia:

1) What negative impact has this (media/television censorship) activity had on russian society?

2) Do you agree that the people who are in position to make pertinent decisions in government (and therefore impacting society et al.) have the uncensorsed information that they need to make decisions?

3) This is the "Vladimir Putin Delivers" thread; although there is freedom to post nearly whatever you like, where ever you like--wouldn't your criticisms and anti-KGB/FSB comments ....................

No no no, anything but this! Not to be free to post anythink I want on AMERICAN internet?

4) Are you probing to discover what I like about, or why I support Vladimir Putin?

5) Are you trying to make friends with me (in a diplomatic sense) or strictly to engage in political debate & sharing of viewpoints?

I'm trying to express my thoughts and hope to be heard, which I couldn't do in the USSR and now can do it less, than before Putin.

[Alex_Ivanov]

Originally Posted by whoinia

Íà: http://www.nns.ru/Elect-99/analit/pputin/put116.html

Íà ñàìîì äåëå â ñóäüáå Ïóòèíà åùå ÷åòûðå ìåñÿöà íè÷åãî íå ìåíÿëîñü è íå ïîâîðà÷èâàëîñü, è, îòïðàâèâ â îòñòàâêó ïðåìüåðà Åâãåíèÿ Ïðèìàêîâà, ñòàâøåãî ñëèøêîì ïîïóëÿðíûì è íåçàâèñèìûì, Åëüöèí íàçíà÷èë íîâûì ïðåìüåðîì ìèíèñòðà âíóòðåííèõ äåë Ñåðãåÿ Ñòåïàøèíà. È òîëüêî 9 àâãóñòà 1999 ãîäà Åëüöèí, ÿâíî ðàçî÷àðîâàííûé ðàáîòîé Ñòåïàøèíà, îòïðàâèë è åãî â îòñòàâêó, íàçíà÷èâ Âëàäèìèðà Ïóòèíà íîâûì ïðåäñåäàòåëåì ïðàâèòåëüñòâà Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè.
Íó ÷¸, îáîñðàëñÿ? Àãèòïðàïîðèøêî íåùàñíûé.

Pull up the pants and wipe your snot!

Àãà, âîò â òîì-òî è äåëî, ÷òî ïðåäñåäàòåëåì ïðàâèòåëüñòâà. À âîò ÷òî áûëî íàïèñàíî:

Originally Posted by whoinia

prime minister of the Russian parliament - Duma

Èçâîëü îáúÿñíèòü, ïðè ÷åì òóò Äóìà.

Ç.Û. ÿçûê-òî ïîïðèäåðæè. ß-òî òîëåðàíòíî ê ëè÷íûì âûïàäàì îòíîøóñü, íî áóäåò îáèäíî åñëè çàáàíÿò.