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Old 23rd October 2001, 23:28
Shpulka Shpulka is offline
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As I understand, the purpose of the whole discussion is to find out what Russia is today. It’s a very interesting question, more there; even Russians themselves are discussing it. Nevertheless, it seems to me that, probably, we have to take more seriously to our knowledge and experience. I mean, we must speak only about the things that we know exactly. For example, I opposed to those, who don’t know that population of the Russian nation and immigration of Russians to America and other countries have a very small connection between. In my point of view such a man could not be an opponent because of his ignorance of reasons of demographical changes in a state.
I’m also tempted to refuse, that Russian teacher in America, who left Russia in a time of awful economical crisis, hasn’t got any economical education and last time has seen Russia 2 years ego is able to be an opponent in a question of what is really going on now in Russia.
We all take a keen interest in the theme, but, kindly, take more seriously to the subject or there is no sense to discuss at all.

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Old 24th October 2001, 06:59
Sashenka Sashenka is offline
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Angry I believe you are reffering to me

Are you kidding me ? Immigration of Russians to America and other countries has the most direct connection to what is going on in the country.If you will turn your attantion
to the reserches in History and Demography of the World you will see that immigration of the population (in any country)
has a tendency to increase proportionaly to the situation
in the given country.It can be War or,in our case,disastrous
economical crisis.I see,you are severely unaware of the fact
that population of Russians in the foreing countries are
enormous!!!Simply because you are not able to see it - doesn't mean that it is not so.
Now,just because I left Russia two years ago doesn't mean that I stoped being Russian.Two years is a very very short
period of time in the eyes of the history(it's a moment)-so,don't tell me that economy in Russia magically recovered!-it doesn't make any sense and you know it.Also the fact that I left Russia two years ago doesn't mean that
I cut off all the connections with my people.All this time
I had to support all my family and my child - the responsibility,young lady,you know nothing about!So,what makes you believe that you have more right to be "a serious opponent".What we are-in the kindergarden ?Take my advise,speak for yourself,let people know what is your outlook on the situation in Russia.And maybe it will come as a huge surprise for you but we are not discussing here the topic "Russia through the eyes of Shpulka" and we are not discussing here who is more Russian and who is less Russian because of the location.Do you realise how ignorant it sounds?At last,just because I am not willing to live in Russia ..."in a time of awful economical crisis"...doesn't make me less Russian or less educated or takes away 24 years of my life and expr. and surviving and knowledge!!!
I guess,you would have to deal with it and the fact that
"Russian teacher,who left Russia 2 years ago "is going to
talk about Russia,about its culture and castoms and people.Have a good day.
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Old 24th October 2001, 19:17
Shpulka Shpulka is offline
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Re: I believe you are reffering to me

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[b] Immigration of Russians to America and other countries has the most direct connection to what is going on in the country.

- Are we talking about the connection between immigration and population or about the connectoin between immigration and situation in a country? If our discussion is about the connectoin between immigration and situation in a country - I agree with your point.

Now,just because I left Russia two years ago doesn't mean that I stoped being Russian.
- No, it doesn't. You're still Russian.

Two years is a very very short
period of time in the eyes of the history(it's a moment)-so,don't tell me that economy in Russia magically recovered!

I didn't say that. When every year there is a new prime-minister in the country, 2 years is a long period. Economy hasn't recoverd. But it is in the very begginnig of her recovering. That what I meant saing "Russia is at the beggining of her history". Like America in 1930th.

So,what makes you believe that you have more right to be "a serious opponent".
- Firstly, becouse I'm living here. And I always try to emphrase, that my town - is a very little part of large Russia, so I'm speaking about those things that I see.



I guess,you would have to deal with it and the fact that
"Russian teacher,who left Russia 2 years ago "is going to
talk about Russia,about its culture and castoms and people.

-I'm pro that everyone can speak whatever he or she wants. But, if it your past experience - emphase it. I and you are Russians. We have different experience about our country, but it hurts me, when smb. told me here that "Sashenka told as a lot about Russia. (Bad things, as I understood)". So, I want to tell people about good events in Russia.
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Old 25th October 2001, 00:47
Sashenka Sashenka is offline
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Arrow Shpulka

You are making a very clear point:who is not with you is against you.Nobody stops you from sharing your opinion about Russia today.Please,do so!Regurding this 2 years away
from my country:as I told before,all this time I was a provider for my whole family.And if you think that I don't have a clear idea about what is going in on in the country you are mistaken.Trust me - I know what is going on.Finally,
about your feelings for immigrants - who cares ? It is not
for you to judge what kind of choice people made for themselfs and there children.Nobody is judging your choice.
As for what is my opinion on what is going on over there -
once again,it's my opinion.All I told here is truth and
you can choose to like it or not to like it - it doesn't
change any single thing.If you have to say something new about Russia today - say it.At last,I would like to know
where exactly I misinformed people on Russian forum?I never
got the answer even though I asked you.What did I say to get you so judgmental and agressive?I am shure everybody else would like to know in which way they were disinformed.
Please,clear it for me.
You have education - good for you.I,myself,graduated from two Universt-s. and I know how important it is.Take care.
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