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Old 28th October 2002, 21:51
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We are witnessing the possibility of something great happening here: the conversion of Bill Ungaro! Think about something: Saul of Tarsus, one of the greatest persecutors of Christians met Jesus, and became Paul who wrote most of the New Testament. He became one of the greatest allies of the kingdom, and a great servant of God.

Look at Bill. Here are the facts:

1. He continually talks smack against Christians, the only form or persecution available to him now. And he does it with great zeal.

2. He is tenacious! Nobody gets pounded more on this board than Bill. Yet he just keeps on coming back for more. He is like the energizer bunny: he keeps going and going....

3. Nobody can dissuade him from his form of truth. Think about what will happen when Bill sees the REAL truth. If he personally meets the Creator of the universe, do you think all this athiest-evolutionist nonesense will remain in his brain for even one minute???

4. Nobody will believe it. Remember when Paul was converted, many were skeptical and fearful that it wasn't the real deal. Paul went out to the Jews with zeal, passion, and power. Imagine what Bill could do for the other athiests-evolutionists-unbelievers on this board. He would raise many eyebrows. When I became saved, God brought a steady stream of witches, Satanists, and occultists to me because that is the realm I came out of. Bill could put some serious hurt to the political/scientific community he runs with now.

And the possibilities go on and on. When the Roman jailor was saved in Acts, the Bible says he went home and all of his household were saved. Bill could touch a great many people with his testimony.

Let's all keep praying for Bill. If God is merciful to him, the possibilities for the Lord to receive glory are endless! Just think about Bill Ungaro with the power of the Holy Spirit, the love of Jesus, and the truth of the Bible. He could be a great servant of the Most High God. There will be an awful lot of joy and many high fives on that day. Let that joy come!
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Old 28th October 2002, 23:12
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Bill see the light?

Nothing short of a nuclear blast will open Bills eyes to light.The Devil has a hold on him and he is so decieved he will not be aware untill he ends in hell.But,,Why not.I've always thought he was good inside but angry about some past event in his life.I have traveled that road myself.The road to Damascus is farther for some. I think harder case would be my pal Nonson.
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Old 29th October 2002, 00:28
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CASTLE................

Now would THAT raise the roof???

It's a brave conjecture - but absolutely biblical and greatly to be desired and prayed for. Many of us have started to do that - but the REAL action is in the hands of our Lord.

It would make every argument worthwhile - a million-fold.

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Old 29th October 2002, 00:58
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Once again,

Praying is a form of Self Gratification. It will make you blind. Further, any praying ritual that does not contain
a sacrifice is not a proper ritual. It's a cop out. Either do it right or forget it. Ritual, ritual, ritual, paganism, woo-dooism. Do I hear an Amen?

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Old 29th October 2002, 01:16
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Do I hear an Amen?

NOPE!
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Old 29th October 2002, 01:20
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NO YOU DO NOT..............chuckle......

Now 'self-gratification', Bill - maybe 'self-sacrificing', as one takes out valuable time to think of one's friends who may have much of this world's goods - but you KNOW that they're bankrupt for the next world....but as I've said elsewhere - worth every second when God answers......and I believe He will.

You have an amazing way with words, in that ......like how can praying 'make you blind'??? I've heard of other ways.. but praying OPENS YOUR EYES, BILL. You can start with "IF you're there, God, then PLEASE OPEN MY SPIRITUAL EYES and let me see something that will convince me of YOU !!" The great thing is, that Jesus PROMISED that "those who seek me- will find me". Seeing as "It is not God's Will that ANY should perish" - we KNOW that it is God's Will that we pray for you to see the Living God. We can't go wrong !!

And one more thing. JESUS' death put all need of sacrificing OUTTA THE WINDOW. Forget the goats, Bill - we need no blood except the blood of Jesus to sort out our sin. 'The Lamb of God sacrificed once for all - and for all time' Now THAT should receive a loud 'Amen' from somewhere.

Respectfully yours,

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Old 29th October 2002, 02:09
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Bill you write without thinking.

You wrote: "Either do it right or forget it. "
So there is a right way to pray????? Now you have to admit that there is value in prayer if done right. Why else would you chide us for doing it wrong.

Bill, you're not even a good athiest. You can do better than that.

And as far as prayer making us blind, you won't mind if we pray until we need glasses, do you?
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