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Old 10th January 2003, 14:18
The_Spirit_Of_Melodies The_Spirit_Of_Melodies is offline
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If you are 15 YO.You are extremly inteligent.You owe nothing to God nor the Catholic church for the position you are now in? I am not Catholic.But I noticed there are highly intelligent Catholics that turn on God and their church.Rikbe is a bright guy too.I think because of his being born into that system.But they turn around and bite the hand that gave them opprotunities.You may have felt better to move to a Godless Communist country like China.
I say again Justo Do not fall into the bad traite of generalizing. For there are Catholics that do stay catholic. Some because they are frightened by the system in wich thesit call "Faith" (IE If you dont believe in god you WILL got to hell). Or there are some smart Catholics that think intellectually such as AMAL (Not saying that your Catholic Dude but merely using you as an example ). And know this i never claimed myself as intelligent i was just perceived on russia.com for having an adult mind, even you say so. So do not say that "I think that im allllll smart", because i am not all smart. By the way it never gave me an oppurtinity for anything. And about being in debt and you wonder why i am like so I have explained in Lovely Lenore's post.

I ask you this... Why do you or your religion feel so much in debt as in to show us Atheist your religion by ways of conversion? Once you understand this you will understand my reason.

Again i said an apology for generalizing and stereotyping us atheist would be NICE but optional. It would show what kind of person you are as i did apologize to theists for the name calling. But we atheist do not look forward on getting one and getting one would not really matter.
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Theja thank you for pointing that out. But there are some people out there that do base their good actions and good deeds because of their fear of hell. I totally agree with you that good actions and good intentions is better coming from a good nature. And much of the stuff that you said goes for me to.
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Old 10th January 2003, 19:34
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You are a good person because your parents taught you right from wrong.I would guess.You father is a good person because he was taught right from wrong by elders.You may have been born under a comuunist system.I think.But I belive Christian influence from the past history of Hungary had a lot to do with you and your fathers lives than either of you realize. Else where does the cocepts of right and wrong come from? I have read most of the communist preachers .
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Old 10th January 2003, 20:30
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Incase you wonder

I come by and post and run off and do other things then come back by.I see your note above Eye Guy. Yes , I know of what you speak of. I had books from Cloumbia U that covered old history such as Babylon in early times. They had a nice code of conduct.But one was a law that a person was thrown in the river with crokadiles for things today that are minor infractions of our laws.Still it was not a bad system.Those books were very informative and seemed to be accurate history.Cant find that info online though. But,, You can not have a society with no code of conduct and enfoced by wise persons.The law of the jungle means just what it refers to.Dishonesty,Dishonor and other bad traits should be punished or ciminals run a nation.I just believe Christianity was very helpful to the west.I have been on both sides of the fence.There is a diffrence in the kinds of aquaintaces you make in a church as opposed to a crack house ..Or bar as was my case.I like poeople you can tun your back on and know you are safe,You can lay your wallet down by Christians and know it will not be taken. Now as Spirit commented that I generalize.This may be but it is my guideance system .
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Old 11th January 2003, 06:16
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Yes Ofcourse pal!

I have been hit with wisesticks..It kinda grows on you in time.
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Old 11th January 2003, 09:58
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You are a good person because your parents taught you right from wrong.I would guess.You father is a good person because he was taught right from wrong by elders.You may have been born under a comuunist system.I think.But I belive Christian influence from the past history of Hungary had a lot to do with you and your fathers lives than either of you realize. Else where does the cocepts of right and wrong come from? I have read most of the communist preachers .
Interesting post, and I will reply later Justo I just got home, it's late and I'm going to hit the sack. Just wanted to let you know for now that I didn't miss your post.

Good night.
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Old 13th January 2003, 21:04
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Where is this building Jutka?

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Old 13th January 2003, 21:07
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Hungary of the past?Marx failed to distroy the past as he hoped.

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