how to distinguish religious from others

[Mission010]

This is what makes Christianity, as Jesus taught different from other religions. The promise not of bliss or happiness, but of "taking up your cross" and following Jesus. Of "selling all, giving to the poor" and then folllowing Him. It is promised that the martyrs will have a crown. What we look to is our relaitonship with Jesus, and a joyfull reunion with Him, in His Kingdom, that He will establish "on earth as it is in heaven."
-B, You have a right to believe what you want to believe, and I don't wish to infringe on that right, only to lay before everyone the option, to believe what I have in my own life found to be true.
-Blessings....

Greetings Mission 010,
On the surface your postings seems fair and
polite. You may well be a fair and just individual. Unfortunately, the same thing can not be said of Christianity. More people have been killed because of Christianity
than by all WARS, REVOLUTIONS, GERMS and VIRUSES combined. The standard response to that is, well that was in the past, look at us now. Let us look at Christianity now. You folks have no respect for the law. You are in daily violation of laws calling for the separation of state and church. You have used
"Gods Word" to fight against integration. You have used "Gods Word" to defeat the Equal Rigths Amendment to the Constitution.
Today you are using "Gods Word" to spread hatred about homosexuals. With all this love and kindness you talk about, it is clear that Christians do not like people who are different. You elevate your faith to a superior status and call other faiths "DEVIL
WORSHIPPERS". Remember the word "Untermench"?
I do not see anything in your former or current behaivor worthy of emulating or following. It is not likely that it will change in the future. Nothing good can possibly come out of dependency of any kind.
Good Luck.

[leone]

I'm wondering where people take this fake numbers and generalize so easily with no a bit of trying to refer where these numbers are taken.Ignorance is not an argument.And even those who died in coflicts connected with Christianity. do it because of deviation and not following the Teaching of Christ.
Mission I absolutely agree with your vision of Christia mission, but only I tnik that those who prophesy Christianity have to take practical stepes as well.

Greetings to All,
In yesterdays Houston paper there was a big article on the conflict at Baylor University.
Please keep in mind that Baylor is an
"Industrial Strength" Baptist School. It seems that the Biology Department is in a conflict with the School Administration. The Biology Department, made up of learned men, professors and scientist, favors and has been teaching evolution. The Administration
that is made up of Snake Handling, Tonque
Speaking, Faith Healing, Bible Thumping,
Scripture Quoting Preachers, prefers the creation theology. Not as it is written in Genesis (Book of Mozes in some places) but with a new twist called: "Intelligent Beginning". They realize that creation as written in Genesis is becoming more and more difficult to sell. They needed a new plan.
Bingo,- we now have Intelligent Beginning.
The professors and scientist have gone on record that this kind of Quakery is an attempt to interfere with their attempt to educate. This could get exiting. What about GODS word as written in the bible. If the preachers start squirming about Genesis, what's next. Looks like that after changing their mind about the Flat Earth and Geocentric Universe, they are about to make another major alteration to the long held
theory about creation. They can run but they can not hide from science. They are getting desperate. The water is closing in over their head.
How do you see it?

[Nonson]

A general list of current theological mish-mash: a universe with a transcendent orgin...a required intelligence behind nature...impossibile for life to have began naturally...still engaging the Darwinian Paradigm...evangelical re-assessment of Christianity as a whole...covenant, sacrifice, Atonement, Passover, redemption, reconcilation, popitiation, justification...fallacies in Neo-theistic doctrine and un-wedded thought...adherents of classic Christian theism rebelling...a new god with essentially human limitations...lack of coherency between bibical statements and theological charges...none in harmony with orthodox norms...blatantly anti-theistic stance of some well-known men of the cloth...ministers running from the difficult interpretative issues...challenges to Christianity on basis of failure to carefully integrate available theological data...too many problems arising from sermonic contradictions...a total lack of logic in interpretation of doctrines...a push for reconstruction of the religion...wildly demeaning differences of opinion...no longer any valid connection between the Gospels and the Law...more and more so-called Christians adopting the thought-patterns found in the secular mind-set...too many morally bankrupt denominations in it for image, social position, and money...all giving way to moral and ethical relativism...the nonsensical use of theological jargon to awe or overwhelm the ignorant...failure to establish necessary precondition for a sound theology...lack of an eternal perspective...inability to distinguish between Christian view of evil and truth vs. the secular view...misconceptions leading to attitudes that alien seekers...a famine of mature minds in spiritual matters...a religion without meaning, purpose, or significance...no rationality behind beliefs...promoting more an atheistic or agnostic doctrine than Christian...the dumbing-down of believers leading to the epitome of unclear thinking...lose of tools of effective analysis...theologians who lack a grasp of logical argumentation...no knowedge of the different genres of religious literature...a fading of the essential symbolism of foundational Christianity...dangerous dabbling and mixing of theology and philosophy...having no firm identity as a religious body...no longer teaching how to discern the way of salvation...ignorant of the inner-workings of the Holy Spirit...hung up on the belief that there is an irreducible complexity in creation which religion can't explain...no attempt by leaders to untangle an ever-growing confusion...all presents a definitive rationale for seeking fulfillment of one's spiritual aspirations elsewhere. Forgive my butting in. Peace

[Nonson]

privet leone and MISSION010: restraining my rage is no longer a viable option when I read the utterly asinine conconctions that the two of you have the temerity to post. I truely hope that you two are not as idiotic as your words make you appear. Is that hope a vain thing? If it is, then you two are something to be feared. You know nothing of what you speak, and you are not able to speak clearly of that which you might know. I'm beginning to think that what you two are doing is some sort of regenerative therapy prescribed by your KEEPERS. Or is it following some 'game theory'of which I'm not privy? Now, for a little enlightening. The attempted 'evolution ' of Christianity from the subjective to an objective form(Absolute Religion)gives birth to an operational principle of overwhelming contradiction, and tends to render the whole knowledge as questionable bits in a alterable program. Do you honestly think that your 'religious truth-speak' is geared to any known doctrine? Here should be the stopper to your stupidity(but I doubt it). Religious Reality is not a correspondent to something in Reality, but is an adherent to the Belief in a Coherent Reality. There is nothing in the 'outside' world that makes it true. So tell me, how far wide of the intended target can you two get? May each of you find a inner lantern to guide un-erringly along the dark path you trad. Peace

[Straighterway]

i'm back.

Dear mr. Ungaro,

i admit i was very upset at ur post on July 2.
that means all the time i have been talking 2 u, u were like saying "yeah, whatever"...no, i did not expect u to get converted, but i thought u would at least recognize u were wrong on some points about Christ.

but, anyways, i am not giving up yet...

by the way, if the priests are really snake handling and faith healing, i doubt that they would find any difficulties in their faith.

by the way, could u give me the source of the story? u didn't answer my question about the source last time. cause that time, U really made it sound like Christ was born in 2 different places. hint...

Dear Nonson,
u see, with no kidding whatsoever, i am CONVINCED u r superior to me intellectualy. u read more and u know more than i do. but offending people that have done nothing but expressing their opinion with so many insulting words????? why? please no!!! why, nonson? it just hurts me to the point of tears to hear those insults.

Jesus bless u all. i hope there will be peace. whatever we say now, there is a perfect living God, and He is the Truth, and the very existence of the Truth makes life worthy of living.

--where FAITH has given to people peace, tranquility,kindness, bliss.--

it has, believe it or not, it has. with Jesus i have hope, and i don't even want to think of the spiritual mess i was in before i met Him. yes, Mission and leone, He does give us happiness in this life also, by His peace that surpasses all understanding. the very consiousness that He exists, that He is there, makes it all worth it!!! praise Him. Glory!

by the way, Mission, i have been reading u somewhere else and i admire the way u kept ur cool when insults were flying at u. <high five>