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[Mission010]

I understand that Jesus was Jewish, taught the religion when He was young, grew up in the synogogue, practised Judaism till His dying day. Yet it was Jews that killed Him, and He forgave them. How do you say that it was to the house of Israel, rather than to the house of Judah that He was sent? Did He minister only to Israel? I think we are missing each other somewhere.
For His Kingdom

[Mission010]

Upon rereading your statement, I see that you may be saying that Jesus wasn't Jewish. Is this what your saying? I'll get out my lineage books!

[Nonson]

salam Mission10. Lets put it simply. Jesus was no Jewish. He was an Isralite. Prior to the 6th century B.C. there were no Jews. I hardly think that Jesus' lineage is traceable back through the Babylonian Capitivity. _____________________________________________ Jesus rejected the Judaism of His day as a false teaching, else there would have been no reason for instituting a New Covenant. _____________________________________________ Actually, Judaism then and now is more Rabbinical Pharisaism then the Judaism to which Jesus spoke. _____________________________________________ Christian theology can be a very tough nut to crack, even with years of training and practice. Many gross errors have been committed by supposedly intelligent people, and much of today's corruption of the religion is due to these lauded 'experts'. In most cases, they are expert only in presenting their own biasness. _____________________________________________ We have ample evidence of their foul-ups. One should not seek to add to the overwhelming mess. It is not necessary that one do so. There is sufficient early doctrine to guide one onto the right path. _____________________________________________ Futher evidence of the damage done by the theologians is to be found in the lack of guts on the part of so-called Christians in the practice of their religion. When things get tough and they are questioned to closely, they run like cowardly dogs. They are a disgrace to the Body of Christ. _____________________________________________ Mission10, we who are with the Christ seek that which is just. To do this we must walk the path of righteousness. It is only out of this righteousness that we can bring forth fruit fit for the Spirit. All desirable things sprang from that Path. Peace _____________________________________________

[Mission010]

>>Lets put it simply. Jesus was no Jewish. He was an Isralite. Prior to the 6th century B.C. there were no Jews. I hardly think that Jesus' lineage is traceable back through the Babylonian Capitivity. >>Luke 3:23-38 Jesus lineage is traced through Nathan, the son of David the king, the son of Jesse... all the way back to Judah, the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham. Geneologies are very important to the Jewish people, adn these are with great care passed from generation to generation. This goes far earlier than the babylonian captivity.............................................
>>Jesus rejected the Judaism of His day as a false teaching, else there would have been no reason for instituting a New Covenant.
>>Jesus Himself said Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I say to you until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the law untill all is accomplished. Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven..." does this sound like Jesus is rejecting the Judaism of His day, maybe the religiosity, definately not the law.............................................
>>Actually, Judaism then and now is more Rabbinical Pharisaism then the Judaism to which Jesus spoke.>> can you clarify your meaning of this??.............................................
>>Christian theology can be a very tough nut to crack, even with years of training and practice. Many gross errors have been committed by supposedly intelligent people, and much of today's corruption of the religion is due to these lauded 'experts'. In most cases, they are expert only in presenting their own biasness. We have ample evidence of their foul-ups. One should not seek to add to the overwhelming mess. It is not necessary that one do so. There is sufficient early doctrine to guide one onto the right path. >> To believe the words of Jesus you have to believe in the Old Testament, otherwise you say Jesus has made a mistake, and if He made a mistake what would be the point of Chritianity?.............................................
As to the last two paragraphs, I agree, there are anwsers to all the questions that we have, and if we are unable to give anwsers and stand up for what we beilieve in, if we are scared and run when challenged, how much faith do we really have in what we believe? I hope I've anwsered all you questions for now. Jesus' Jewishness is what enabled us to enter the Kingdom of Heaven, because only the spotless Lamb could die as a sacrifice for our sins, are we able to live with Him forever.............................................
For His Kingdom

[Nonson]

Greetings Mission10. Answering your questions and explaing those answers requires work. This is true in that you are essentially a believer in the Scriptures. _____________________________________________ I could use various deconstructive methods to show you the weakness and utter foolishness of the Bible, but it would do little to alter your beliefs. If I tell you that the BOOK is basically an instruction manuel for an insidious form of warfare, you would not believe me. If I told you that ministers and priests are merely agents provocateurs you would not accept that conclusion. If I tell you that churches are predatory and war-faring bodies you will reject it. These are the reasons I generally play around with the various propaganda modes of the Scriptures. Actually, some of them are very good. Peace

[Mission010]

Correct me if I am wrong, but most of the peole who have had anything to do with the creation of the bibole were more likely to have been those who were Pro-Jesus, yet anti-semetic. What possible good could it do then for them to falsify information saying that Jesus was Jewish, when in reality He wasn't. Jesus is Jewish.
What are the readings that you have been involved in that make you think otherwise, maybe in reading them I will be able to at least understand your point of veiw, though you are right my beliefs will surly not change.

[Jennacarana]

Nonson

Anti-Semitism isn't cool, bud. I don't like it and neither do a lot of other people.

If you are a Christian as defined by the generally accepted idea of "Christian", then you are a Jew of the second covenent. Jesus' covenent. Christianity (from the Christian perspective - I know that Jews disagree) is the fufillment of Judiaism. Jesus was/is the Messiah, as well as the son of God.

You cannot have Christianity without Judaism. They are inextricably linked.

Where does your bitterness towards Jews come from Nonson? Why are you so opposed to them and to the religion that is the foundation of your own?