What do you think of Mohamed's opinion about Women, LADIES?

[hu_man]

Volume 2, Book 24, Number 541:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri

On 'Id ul Fitr or 'Id ul Adha Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) went out to the Musalla.

After finishing the prayer, he delivered the sermon and ordered the people to give alms.

He said, "O people! Give alms." Then he went towards the women and said.

"O women! Give alms, for I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-Fire were you (women).

" The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is the reason for it?"

He replied, "O women! You curse frequently, and are ungrateful to your husbands.

I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you.

O women, some of you can lead a cautious wise man astray."

Then he left.


http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles...n_in_Islam.htm

[theja]

Muhammad considered women as inferior, would entertain suicide bombers in paradise, and most of those on earth should be brainwashed and live without liberty. But he did choose some pretty ones for himself.

http://www.homa.org

[Fl_Flambeau]

You didn't give us your conclusion!!

You theja.. you need to relax.

To have a good look at women's position:

-Islam declared women and men equal.
-Islam condemned pre-Islamic practices degrading and oppressing women.

-The same injunctions and prohibitions of Islam equally apply to both sexes.

-Islam gave woman the right of inheritance and the right of individual independent ownership unhampered by father, husband, brother, son or anyone else.

-Islam gave women the right to accept or reject a marriage proposal free from pressure, and by mutual agreement to specify in the marriage contract that she has the right to divorce (if she misses that option she has the right to seek court divorce if she deems the marriage to have failed beyond repair).

-Islam does not require woman to change her name at marriage.

-Islam protects the family and condemns the betrayal of marital fidelity. It recognizes only one type of family: husband and wife united by authentic marriage contract.

-"Heaven is at the feet of mothers", is a basic Islamic teaching.

-"The best of you are the kindest to their wives and I am your best to mine", is a teaching by prophet Mohammad.

*-Islam enjoins sounds morality in thinking, behavior and appearance. Dress fashions and social patterns that reduce woman to a sex object and exploit her as such are not acceptable to Islam.

-The observance of chastity and moral standards is equally demanded by Islam from both men and women. "Women are the siblings of men", is a saying of prophet Mohammad(PBUH).

To compare between the Quranic and Biblical texts concerning womaen, check this site:
http://www.angelfire.com/fl/religions/woman.html

I don't mean to offend christian people, but what should be said, should be said.

Also the population of women is larger than that of men along the ages. So it's sort of natural that women are more than men in hell and paradise.

[hu_man]

Hello Fl_Flambeau

I assure you that I am very relaxed up to the state of not jumping to conclusions before starting the debate.

(((-Islam declared women and men equal.
-Islam condemned pre-Islamic practices degrading and oppressing women. )))

Islam declared many things to the worried before, but then looking at retraction by action rate Islam practiced through its history, I can say to you truthfully, all these declarations are as irrelevant as the indicated fact that it will never take place in Moslem countries, but rather it is a cheap publicity that will be made believable by applying it in countries where Muslims do not govern, and as much as it takes, but it will be abolished all together if the situation changed.

Happened all over the Islamic history, if you read the Arabs history in its own language.

(Islam does not require woman to change her name at marriage.)


For you or anyone else to imply this is progressiveness is a cheap propaganda lie because if you want to expose the law of “Nekah” (it means simply, Fu*cking in English), which what Islam calls Marriage, and the law of “Meta” (Pleasure in English) I can tell you exactly, and even point to you why those law were made the way they are.

Simply to keep the degradation of Women in line with all other Islamic trends and traditional practices with women; therefore, to be really positive, and in line with God and humanity, I think Islam must do much more than his usual bare useless declaration.


((Also the population of women is larger than that of men along the ages. So it's sort of natural that women are more than men in hell and paradise.))

However, I have to admit that you are rather silly more than funny because you may be truthful by what you said statistics population wise, but is there any chance or possibility that since women are victimized legally by Islamic or otherwise laws to have more population in haven, but then since I presume that you are Arabic with honor that is attached to va*ginas, you can’t say that.

Just because it is as Koran said and most simple Moslem believed all the time it is a sin to be a women, and that implies on mothers, sisters, and wives’ virginity as much as the truth of spelling their blood on every streets in Islamya, or any where else.

Let us all(religious or not) work for better human being in the eyes of GOD.

[theja]

FL, I know Muhammad said many flowery things about women, but he himself lived a lousy life when it comes to women.

On the label it may say VITAMIN, but inside is full of poison. This is what Islam has for women.

Islam is a religion of the flesh. That is why a Muslim may follow all the religious rules and yet be full of anger, hatred, unforgiveness, and extreme Pride in the form of self-righteousness. With this attitude he can take joy in cutting the thief's hands, stoning a blasphemer, and even stone a woman caught in the act. Or honor killing. And he thinks Allah is pleased. Allah, the compassionate, merciful! The knower. Empty words.

[hu_man]

Remember one thing, No religion or logic allow Marriage promises to be made when human are still fetuses in the womb...

Moslems do.

[best]

According to the Qur'an, men and women are equal before God; women are not blamed for violating the "forbidden tree," nor is their suffering in pregnancy and childbirth a punishment for that act.

Islam sees a woman, whether single or married, as an individual in her own right, with the right to own and dispose of her property and earnings. A marital gift is given by the groom to the bride for her own personal use, and she may keep her own family name rather than adopting her husband's. Roles of men and women are complementary and collaborative. Rights and responsibilities of both sexes are equitable and balanced in their totality.

Both men and women are expected to dress in a way that is simple, modest and dignified; specific traditions of female dress found in some Muslim countries are often the expression of local customs rather than religious principle. Likewise, treatment of women in some areas of the Muslim world sometimes reflects cultural practices which may be inconsistent, if not contrary, to authentic Islamic teachings.

The messenger of God said:
"The most perfect in faith amongst believers is he who is best in manner and kindest to his wife."