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[Rain]

Yes, every time a logical explanation is demanded you say "God works in strange and mysterious ways" is it Theja? Christianity can't be questioned but "logic" proves Islam is a false religion?

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Rain

[theja]

Rain, by logical reasoning the Koran can be described as full of errors. Because Muhammad tried to rehash some biblical stories and mixed them up pretty bad.

Also I realized that you're only looking at some articles written by argumentative Muslims. I noticed that you may have but do not bother to open the Bible to see for yourself the references I listed.

You bet there are some elements of mystery in the Bible. You see, mystery is not something we cannot understand, but something left unknown to us. So in the past the coming of Christ has been a mystery until He died and rose again. Now it is no longer a mystery because it has been revealed.

And the revealed mystery I quoted in 1 Timothy 3:16.


Muslims have it backward. They first believe the errors of Muhammad, and from that point of view they try to critique the Bible. Big problem.

First they should investigate and understand the Bible, whether they agree with it or not, and then study the Koran to see how far the Koran deviated from the Bible.

[Arkasha]

A "logical" look at a religious text be it the Quran or the Bible implies a specific scientific, empirical inquiry into the validity and inference of substantive material stated as facts, or ideas stated as discernable concepts.

A look at the first point can yield results; for example, the mention of historic events which can be verified by other founded materials. Logic can assist in this case.

In case two, logic offers little to no help. Explanations brought about through theology cannot by their nature be subject to the laws of logical reasoning. "Faith" as we understand it is the polar opposite of logic.

The two cannot co-exist in the same spot. A "religious-minded" person must make the choice onto which matters of the known and unknown he or she will decide to demarcate their own way of conception: either logic or faith. For example: the sky is blue. It is blue either because that is the way God wanted it / It is blue because that the color blue's short wavelength on its way from the sun causes it to scatter more, while not being atmospherically absorbed, and is thus more visible to the human eye.

Every point of life is subject to the same scale.

[Rain]

Theja : instead of telling me time and again about "errors" of Muhammad, bring something concrete to the table. so far i have proven your myths wrong, and i welcome you to try again. you havent replied to the Aisha post either.

Arkasha : I am not a religionist, not a historian of religion. I am a believer with a rational approach to life. I dont believe in myths and expect the scripture to appeal to a rational person. If it cant, its not a divine scripture, thus is a fake.

God gave humans logic, surely he did not give it for nothing.

Rain

p.s - Theja, Jesus wasnt God. You got him wrong. I've asked for proof.

[theja]

I pointed out the gross errors of Moses talking to Samaritans and Pharoah talking to Haman.

This exposes fraud on Muhammad's claim.

[Rain]

I've addressed your Samaritans "error", theja, read again. Now its my turn to ask the question, what do you think did that verse say, "not everyone" or "not all", and why ?

thanks,
R

[theja]

Sorry I cannot accept that assertion. That was not enough -- maybe good enough in your own eyes, but not for me. I hold Muhammad as committing fraud on this one -- fraud because he claimed it as revelation from Allah.

He had a good time misquoting scripture because the Arabs of his time were ignorant of scriptures and could not correct him or challenge him right away.

I am surprised that a 'rational' Muslim like you is willing to continue this deception by defending the errors of Muhammad as accurate. But this has been the mindset of Muslims all along in my encounters with them.

I have a guess that 99 percent of Muslims are ignorant of the Bible and are unable to see the errors and plagiarism in the Koran.