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Old 3rd January 2004, 15:40
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Talking Shenolog

The matter of practice!
Thank you Shen!
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Old 3rd January 2004, 15:45
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Smile Salam Aleikum Rain

You have sounded like my enemy, or in better words, you have sounded like enemy of Christians. And that's all!
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Old 3rd January 2004, 16:53
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Re: Christianity dead? Not hardly!

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Look around you storms. Christians are the movers and shakers in this world. Most of the charity given to the oppressed and needy in this world are by Christian organizations. Most of the hospitals and orphanages are additionally funded by Christian organizations. More wells were dug in Africa by Chriatians that any other group including their own governments. Care, Goodwill, Salvation Army, Doctors without borders, Children of the night, and thousands of other groups that make an impact for good on this planet are all Christian organizations. The largest addiction recovery network world wide is Christian based. Who is finding homes for the poor children of the FSU? Christian adoption agencies. The church shows it's love by ACTION, not talk.

And I could go on and on..... When an earthquake rocks Mexico city, or some other disaster such as that, look and see who arrives on the scene to help. You won't find an Islamic organization, nor scores of Buddhist monks digging through the rubble. It's the Christians! It's the church! Not denominations, but those who belong to the kingdom of the living and true God and his saviour Jesus!

Forget the bickering. The glass is half full, not half empty! And the church is the only true light and salt on this planet.

May your creator reveal himself to you storms. And may you see that you were created with a plan and a puropse to fulfill.
Hello Castle Stormer, I read articles sent to the Religion board from time to time but I do not write frequently here because I do not consider myself an expert on religion. My piety has a practical dimension and Mother Teresa from Calcutta is my ideal of Christianity. I liked your arguments. It would be almost impossible to erase Jesus from people's hearts because of so many wonderful things which have been done and which are being done in His name.
The very idea He represented is so appealing that He would always find keen followers.
I realize that there were a lot of filthy things made in his name as well but happily it is to large extent a domain of the past. New countries with the budding Christian communities like South Korea prove that Christianity is well living idea. Christianity refined humanity.

Someone mentioned homosexual priests. This marginal behaviour results from celibacy which is just more than a demand - it is a sacrifice which sometimes goes beyond powers of a human. I think that modern lifestyle where an individual is constantly pressed and excited by sexual images only adds fire to our impulses.

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Old 3rd January 2004, 17:14
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Lightbulb Storms

You asked me:"Are homosexual priests amongst the 'Chosen ones'??
There is answer for you:
"Not everyone who says to me 'Lord, Lord',will enter the Kingdom of the Heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in Heaven.
On that day many will say to me, 'Lord,Lord,did we not prophesy in your name...
And than I will declare to them,'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers og lawlessness'."
(Matthew 7, 21-23)

So, let God arise and let His enemies be scattered...And those homosexual "priests" are His enemies!
That is what we do expect through the Resurrection of Christ.
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Old 3rd January 2004, 17:37
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What do the enemies of Christians sound like, Jelena? Should Christians have enemies at all? I respect Christianity, but not all Christians. ( and not all Muslims, naturally )

If you dont mind I would like to debate with you on one verse you just quoted, since you seem educated in Bible :

(Matthew 7, 21-23)

There is another translation, which says "No one" instead of "Not everyone".

Here are two translations of Matthew 7:21. One is from the
version authorized by a king (not God), King James, The
other is The New American Bible, which was translated by the
members of Catholic Biblical Association of America. Notice
the contradiction between the two translations in the first
three words of that verse:

King James Version:

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter
into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my
Father which is in heaven."


The New American Bible (1970):

"None of those who cry out, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the
kingdom of God but only the one who does the will of my
Father in heaven."


Our question for Christian Scholars on Mt 7:21 has two
parts. The simple part of the question is:

Which One Is Correct:

"Not every one..." OR "None of those ..." ?

And the difficult part is: Why?

thank you,

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Old 3rd January 2004, 19:56
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Castle, I commend your effort to educate those who are in denial here. I think they will continue to insist being right in their own eyes. But, hey, you have to do what you have to do; beyond that, if they don't acknowledge facts and in fairness try to learn something, they will continue on in denial and even bitterness for some.
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Old 3rd January 2004, 23:07
JelenaSerbia JelenaSerbia is offline
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Lightbulb Rain

Well Rain you are in right, there are some "versions" like King James or some like it.But,however, the Orthodox and Roman Chatolic Churchs of Christ with they's dogmas, rules and teaching have been the same for 20 centuries and will remain the same until the second Coming of Christ and the rising of the dead. Our Holy Church is defined by the word of Christ, the lows of God and the Holy Teaching.
There are many "modernized" organizations who dare to call themselfs "churches" exist world wide.
But everybody knows who were, is and will be adherent to the true words of God until the end of the world and of time!
And Islam has sects too. I hope that you, members of Islam, know who have real words of Alah!
With respect JelenaSerbia
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