The Lies of Ilam

[Solitaire]

I think you should have called yourself Non-sense,
don't you have anything else to do, I mean of a building nature.

I think you can't resist the SHOW? Don't you have a Jop to do in this life? other than disscusing the life of those who did their JOBS.

How do you want someone to believe that you have a correct judgment of life -not mentioning religion- and follow you when you look lost asking all those questions!

Maybe you will be a Jewish in the coming year,or buddhist later who knows, who care anyway...

[ALEXEYEV]

To : Magribia

It's your dream that I am know nothing about Islam!
I had read Al Qur'an and Hadist Sahih Bukhari, you better know that some of my relatives are moslems and I ask to mullahs and even a mufti about Islam and Fiqh.
Dear Magribia, I learned about Islam, Budhhist, Hindu, Sikh, Zoroastrian, Tao and Confucianism besides Christianity for more than ten years!

But I bet you have never learned Christianity from the right source (i.e. Bible) and right person (i.e. a Pastor/Reverend or a bishop either!), you only know Christianity or Bible and Jews or Judaism from (and only) your Al Qur'an with single side perception (that you always right and other religion must be wrong)!
That's why you (and many moslems) jugdes Christianity unfairly with other religions scripture (Al Qur'an).

Other religion realize that Holy Scriptures are the Words of God but written by man, not as your thought that your scripture was printed from Heaven Offset in Arabic.
The base of a discussion are : equality, wisdom, do cross checking and argueable.
May be your religion worships "three gods" : ALLAH, PROPHET MUHAMMAD AND HOLY QUR'AN! Because they are PURE, HOLY, PERFECT, AND SO ON!
But I testify that nothing and no one is perfect except GOD!
Bible may has a lack, and our prophets also has sin and limitations!

wassalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
alexeyev

[maghribiaa]

You may have read a lot about Islam, but your reply was full of mistakes!! It's not because you read a lot about islam that you understand Islam. You have said nothing about the corrections i did to your reply. I do know a lot about christianity. My husband used to be one, and he converted to islam You are trying to give me a lesson here about how i should judge religions when you know nothing about Islam.

[TheMinister]

1 Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron. 1 Timothy 4

TODAY’S SERMON: The Evils of Big Religion.

Religion is truly an evil, divisive realm deftly crafted by Satan as a means of distracting sincere pilgrims from ever receiving the knowledge of the truth. While the ad nausea mantra, “Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,” is repeated incessantly, please realize this racket proves nothing as to the veracity or creditability of any religion. Numbers and do not imply truth or superiority of precepts, just numbers, and that is in fact not especially important. Jesus Christ had a relatively small numbers of true followers, the Pharisees had more, should one conclude that the sect of the Pharisees was superior to the faith put forth be Jesus because they had a greater head count? of course not!

For the Pharisees and their disciples, “big” religion was impressive, but served only as spiritual smoke in their eyes; they saw nothing! Oddly, Jesus encountered more resistance and malice from the religious crowd than He did the professional tobacco chewin sinners in the bars and brothels, because religion is nothing more than a flamboyant, unholy presupposition that arrogantly calls for the Creator to prostrate Himself before its wretched view of the way things "ought to be" (spiritually). Jesus’ estimation on the Middle East’s largest organized religion of His day:

MARK 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands? 6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. 7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. 9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. 10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: 11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. 12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; 13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye. 14 And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand: 15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man. 16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.

Readers, do not be impressed with cheap sales pitches like "the fastest growing" or "the most members," instead, remember the crowd is most often wrong, and Islam proves this truth nicely every time it boasts of big membership.

<>< Think before you sell your soul, huh?

[maghribiaa]

Oh la la minister, seems like you are a little bit insecure!!! How can you preache such things when you can't even answer my questions??? Oh lala let it go...

[TheMinister]

Hello maghribiaa,

The protest of yours is really getting old! When I failed to find a question you posted several months ago, I asked you to please repeat it - you could not even remember the question. Instead, you asked ME to find it, because YOU forgot where you posted it. Eventually, I found the questions and answered them. I asked you to reply, BUT YOU NEVER DID. What is crazy about all of this is YOU are accusing ME of dodging questions; this is nuts! Please stop throwing up this smoke screen every time you see me post on VC. This childish method of apologetics not only fails to confuse the topic, which seems to be your primary aim, but also exposes great weakness in you ability to articulating truth claims on any scholarly level. I would really enjoy discussing ideas in mature fashion with you maghribia, so please, cease-fire, and let us begin again. I will be happy to answer any questions you have, but please, let us leave attitudes on the shelf, huh?

[TAP]

Dear Minister, I am a Christian and I am wondering if your argumentative approach is doing more damage than good. I visited your site and find your daily devotionals inspiring in the morning. But you must live up to them yourself - the one yesterday said: "Don't just study the Bible, -- live it, don't just dabble in external religion -- demonstrate pure speech...." Please examine your speech if it in accordance with your preaching lest you be accused of hypocrisy. I saw you spaming the board in other VCI country and they told you to "stop the noise". Please accept my criticism the way it was meant - as from your sister in Christ...