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Old 17th May 2004, 11:50
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Wonderfull movie, made a lasting impression on me, through powerfull imagery and incredible storyline, brought with very high realism, its as if you walk with Christ.


I am not a christian, but i walked out the cinema with tears in my eyes after seeing this movie.
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Old 17th May 2004, 17:43
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I'm glad you got to see it durak. It is a great movie.

Thanks to Mel Gibson for having the courage to make such a movie. And thanks to Jesus for taking all that pain for a puke like me.
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Old 25th May 2004, 02:03
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I saw the Passion of the Christ sometime ago. The ADL and Jewish media's attempted censorship of the film only helped to sell the movie to a wider audience. It was a lot more violent than I expected it to be. The part where Christ is carrying the cross and encountered his mother Mary was especially moving. From what I can gather it was very widely viewed in the Middle east and Muslim world for a Christian film.

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Old 25th May 2004, 02:30
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So the Jewish take offense to this movie. I was always under the impression that the Romans killed Jesus. I haven't seen the movie though cause I hate Mel Gibson movies. And I haven't gotten to that part in the bible yet. So why again is this movie anti-semetic? Cause it doesn't look like I'll ever find out.
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Old 25th May 2004, 02:42
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I heard that one of the complaints that some in the Jewish community had was that Gibson portrayed Jews as rather sinister looking. You know. Like you might see on a Nazi propaganda cartoon. I haven't seen the movie. That's just what I heard...
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Old 26th May 2004, 17:33
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First - Gibson

This is like no other 'Mel Gibson movie', so don't worry about that.

He has taken both the Bible and other traditional literature to inspire an extremely compelling movie. It clearly shows the fear that the Jews had of this man who was winning people's hearts and minds. They conspired against him and got him condemned even against the Roman Governor's personal wishes to free him.

Yes- it was the Romans who beat him up and nailed him to a cross to death, but it was the Jews who instigated it. With the long history of "the Jews killed Jesus", they thought this film would start up a wave of anti-semitism again. I don't think it has.

I didn't think Jesus looked 'sinister' - in fact his early life showed a lovely man with humour and kindness - and the last 20 seconds of "The Risen Lord" were truly victorious.....awesome.

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Old 26th May 2004, 21:33
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It's not primarily the common Jews that this film take a shot at but rather the Jewish religious and state authorities.

The charge is that Jewish religious authorities conspired with the corrupt, weak (Jew controlled) puppet government of the Romans to kill the Messiah.

What is the political message of this film? If not that Christianity is under attack by the Jews. This film is merely using the cover of the crucifixion to draw a parallel.


The a priori of anti-anti-Semitism is that unless every single Jew in the world is involved in an action, 'Jews' can't be blamed.

That's probably a fair characterization of what anti-anti-Semites contend. Of course, even if we accept their contention as true, it gets them nowhere, as "every single Jew in the world" *is* involved in every action taken by the Jewish community. That's what it means to be a Jew. But even if *that* weren't true, it still wouldn't matter, because we have no moral obligations to Jews.

"Blame" is a moral concept, but a fundamental presupposition of morality is reciprocity -- reciprocity of rights and obligations. Jews have opted out of the universal moral community, and have adopted (in both the Torah and the Talmud) a moral code in which Jews owe no moral obligations to gentiles. Ipso facto, we gentiles owe no moral obligations to Jews.
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