DO you really believe God exist?

[_DigitaLVampirE_]

Are you God's replacement?
Seriously, as far as concerned, the Members in the Religion
Board have tried their best to refrain from preaching.
But it's odd to watch an Atheist trying his best to "convert" Believers.

If you wish to discuss religion with the folks here, give them the respect they deserve and if you cannot, then please refrain from visiting this Board.
God may not concern you but it does to these folks.

Regards,
DV

[Hattushil-]

See how derwish Yunus picks on God in his lovely poem....

In fact,this is a good poem to think about....


O God, if you would ever question me,
This would be my outright answer to Thee:

True, I sinned-brutalised my own being,
But what Have I done against you, my King?

Did I make myself? I'm your creation.
Why drench me in sin, Benevolent One?


I saw dungeons when I opened my eyes-
Teeming with devils, temptation and lies.


To shun death by Hunger, many a time,
In prison, I had to eat dirt and grime.


Did your dominion become any less?
Did I usurp any of your prowess?


Are you Hungry? Did I eat your ration?
Did I deprive you, cause your starvation?


Do you still seek revenge though you hilled me,
Since I rotted, since darkest soil filled me.


You built me a bridge to cross, thin as hair;
Out of your traps I'm to choose my own snare.


How can a man pass through a Hair-thin bridge?
He falls or clings on or flies off the ridge.


Your slaves build bridges for the public good,
Those who pass through it head for the Godhead.


I wish its firm foundation will hold sway
So those who cross it know it's the true way.


You set a scale to weigh deeds, for your aim
Is to hurl me into Hell's crackling flame.


A scale is suitable for a grocer,
For a small merchant or a jeweller.


Sin, though, is the vilest, filthiest vice,
The profit of those unworthy of Grace.


You can see everything, you know me-fine;
Then, why must you weigh all these deeds of mine?


No harm ever came from Yunus to you;
Open, secret-all things are in your view.


God Almighty, why all this talk, why must
We prattle about a handful of dust?


Yunus Emre

13th century

[Hattushil-]

Originally posted by Diablos


Everyone have their own perception of religion. For a scientific mind like you God could equal the Universe, or "everything". This way we could definitely prove that God excists! Thus we are part of God and God is in us.

Diablos,have you heard something about the idea of "unity of being" in Sufi mysticism? You are almost there,interesting...

See what Yunus Emre (he is a Bektashi derwish who lived in 13th century) says,

God permeates the whole wide world,
Yet his truth is revealed to none.
You better seek Him in yourself,
You and He aren't apart - you're one.


PS. I don't understand you guys why you are so much against the evolution,the evolution doesn't mean that God does not exist...Any way,up to you,this is my opinion...

[Faloaded]

Originally posted by Hattushil-

Diablos,have you heard something about the idea of "unity of being" in Sufi mysticism? You are almost there,interesting...

See what Yunus Emre (he is a Bektashi derwish who lived in 13th century) says,

God permeates the whole wide world,
Yet his truth is revealed to none.
You better seek Him in yourself,
You and He aren't apart - you're one.


PS. I don't understand you guys why you are so much against the evolution,the evolution doesn't mean that God does not exist...Any way,up to you,this is my opinion...

That's pantheism, one of the oldest belief system.

Still, my theory is much much better.

There are infinit number of universes, and every probabilities exist, the "me" is just an union of points in different universes by a "collective" wave collapse.

There are many of those universes that are just simulations in Quantum computers... and probably one day our civilisation will be advanced enought to creat its own multiverse, by Quantum inflation or better yet Quantum Computer generated universe. We'll be the God of some universes in maybe not so distant future.

[prawda__]

sounds like scizofrenia mixed with aspirin and bozz to me...

[Faloaded]

Originally posted by prawda__
sounds like scizofrenia mixed with aspirin and bozz to me...

How ironic that I am answered like this by a believer.

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=6755&hl=

What I propose is supported by the most recent theories in physic.

The Super String theory, the MWT interpretation of Quantum Mechanic etc... suggest it.

[gs001]

Moderator _DigitaLVampirE_:
Are you threating or warning me?
if I don't give up my action of "convert Believers"
my thread will be deleted or my ID will be shut off?
OK,If I can't express my opinion freely, I will leave.
You believers always afraid of different opinions
just like your ancestors 500 years ago.