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Old 10th February 2005, 11:57
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In the pasture of this world, I endlessly push aside the tall grasses in search of the bull.
Following unnamed rivers, lost upon the interpenetrating paths of distant mountains,
My strength failing and my vitality exhausted, I cannot find the bull.
I only hear the locusts chirring through the forest at night.



Comment: The bull never has been lost. What need is there to search? Only because of separation from my true nature, I fail to find him. In the confusion of the senses I lose even his tracks. Far from home, I see many crossroads, but which way is the right one I know not. Greed and fear, good and bad, entangle me.

http://www.cs.sfu.ca/people/Research...s/Preface.html

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Old 10th February 2005, 12:00
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What are your thoughts about Buddhism, and especially about Zen?

I just came across this link and found the story of the ten bulls really exciting!

For me Zen looks to be the most correct religion...

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Old 10th February 2005, 17:03
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I think Buddhism is great. I, myself, am a recently converted Buddhist. For me, it is the only religion that makes any sense whatsoever: No gods, only the furthering of ones own proximity to Nibbanna (or Nirvana)with good deeds and meditation. I find it very relaxing and calming.
The story of the bulls is very thought-provoking, thank you for sharing!
How about you, Solon, what do you think?

Along the riverbank under the trees, I discover footprints!
Even under the fragrant grass I see his prints.
Deep in remote mountains they are found.
These traces no more can be hidden than one's nose, looking heavenward.


Comment: Understanding the teaching, I see the footprints of the bull. Then I learn that, just as many utensils are made from one metal, so too are myriad entities made of the fabric of self. Unless I discriminate, how will I perceive the true from the untrue? Not yet having entered the gate, nevertheless I have discerned the path.

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Old 12th February 2005, 19:03
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Interesting

I just find the concept of Nirvana difficult - while content to constantly seek to improve myself I do not wish to escape the world...ever. It is beautiful and I enjoy all my times here upon it and plan on continuing to do so.

The gods to me are knowledge and understanding - not some specific named entity but use of the energy available to call upon in the universe for good use. Unfortunately that same energy is available for bad use as well.

As such any and all holy teachings may have some value if for the good and enlightenment of the soul.
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Old 14th February 2005, 14:54
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For me Buddhism, and especially Zen, of which I am so much excited, provides what every religion should provide from beginning. That is peace with oneself (foremost!), and love / peace with the world (the outcome!). Good deads for their own sake, not for any award from a God. No fear of punishments from a God. Prayers may equal to meditation, but the last is more effective and the results are essential. No wonder, Zen can be taught / expressed only through poetry; like the link I mentioned before.

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