Christians forcefully converted to Islam

[Gregz]

Whilst it is well know that Muslims even in the west who convert to Christianity are murdered.

In Africa Christians in Sudan are being forcefully converted to Islam under pain of death.

Yet the Moslem's like to maintain the deception that this practice is strictly forbidden under Islam.

"Villagers in several areas of the northeast Upper Nile region say that when women are captured by government forces they are asked: "Are you Christian or Muslim?"

"Women who answer "Muslim" are set free, but typically soldiers gang-rape those who answer "Christian" then cut off their breasts and leave them to die as an example for others."


Musba entered the Uduk tribal capital of Chali and declared to its Christians: "You are all going to convert from Christianity to Islam today, because here is what's going to happen to you if you don't."

Musba then killed five church leaders in front of the gathered villagers. When they refused to convert, he began killing unarmed men, women and children. Some were herded at gunpoint into a hut then run over by a 50-ton, Soviet-made tank.

He also herded groups of about a dozen people into a hut, where he asked the first person "Do you renounce Jesus Christ?" Anyone who refused was killed by a three-inch nail driven into the top of the head.

Greg


"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." - Aristotle

[Hopeful2]

This is absolutely horrific.

Please don't misunderstand me, as I'm not doubting the validity of this story, but where did you get such information?

[Gregz]

Hopeful

Whilst it is true that are erroneous Christian brethren also committed similar abominations in the distant past it is fair to say that we at least have moved on.

Islam forbids the forcefully convertion of "the people of the book" to Islam. Persecuted Christians living under the occupation Muslims rights are being and always have always been violated.

African black Christian have long been enslaved and traded by pro-Arab east African Muslims and these people have been requesting the support of Western Christians for years.

If you care to study the recent history of East Africa nations such as Sudan and Somalia on the Internet you should have no problem authenticating my claims. However, much of the information on the Internets is out of date whilst the problem sadly still persists.

"The present Islamic fundamentalist regime of dictator Omer el Bashir and the cleric Hassan el Turabi in particular has excelled in its ambitious program of comprehensive social transformation based on forced acculturation/Islamization of the African people of the South and the Nuba Mountains. In their crazy drive to forcefully Islamize the Christians and Traditionalists of the South and the Nuba Mountains (or to eradicate them in the event of any resistance) the current government has resorted to bombing, burning and the looting of these people's villages; kidnapping of young men and boys and girls to be converted to Islam in secret camps and then sent to the war front in the South to fight their brethren; relocating entire villages particularly in the Nuba Mountains into concentration camps, similar to (Nazi concentration camps of old) where no services of any kind exist; withholding relief food or aid to starving Southern Christians and non-Moslems until they converted to Islam."

http://members.aol.com/casmasalc/persecut.htm
http://members.tripod.com/~SudanInfonet/Hrtestim.txt
http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bi...rames/read/864

Greg


"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." - Aristotle

[Grendel]

Sounds like a typical lie to me.

[puppyshoes]

Everything said about the muslims is true,but you must understand these people in a mental atate where time stands still. The western church did commit horrible acts in the name of Christ. There was the dark ages when the general pupaltion of western Europe was forbidden to read or write. They believed in witches and many other strange things. This was long ago ,but the eastern church never burned a witch or had an inquisition. The pograms in Russia were state inspired. I converted to the Orthodox Church twenty-five years ago. It was hard leaving behind the evangelical church. I did an extencive study of world religious history. I found to my shock that what I had believed all my life was flawed. I left it behind for the American Orthodox Church.

[Hattushil-]

The below is the firman of a Muslim - Turkish emperor after one of his conquest, whereas he had all the power in his hand...The same time period while religious fanaticism, inquisitions and witch burnings were daily things in Christian Europe....


AHDNAMA OF THE FATIH SULTAN MEHMET

MEHMET THE SON OF MURAT KHAN, ALWAYS VICTORIOUS!

THE COMMAND OF THE HONORABLE, SUBLIME SULTAN'S SIGN AND SHINING SEAL OF THE CONQUEROR OF THE WORLD IS AS FOLLOWS:
I, THE SULTAN MEHMET - KHAN INFORM ALL THE WORLD THAT THE ONES WHO POSSESS THIS IMPERIAL EDICT, THE BOSNIAN FRANCISCANS, HAVE GOT INTO MY GOOD GRACES, SO I COMMAND:
LET NOBODY BOTHER OR DISTURB THOSE WHO ARE MENTIONED, NOT THEIR CHURCHES. LET THEM DWELL IN PEACE IN MY EMPIRE. AND LET THOSE WHO HAVE BECOME REFUGEES BE AND SAFE. LET THEM RETURN AND LET THEM SETTLE DOWN THEIR MONASTERIES WITHOUT FEAR IN ALL THE COUNTRIES OF MY EMPIRE.
NEITHER MY ROYAL HIGHNESS, NOR MY VIZIERS OR EMPLOYEES, NOR MY SERVANTS, NOR ANY OF THE CITIZENS OF MY EMPIRE SHALL INSULT OR DISTURB THEM. LET NOBODY ATTACK INSULT OR ENDANGER NEITHER THEIR LIFE OR THEIR PROPERTY OR THE PROPERTY OF THEIR CHURCH. EVEN IF THEY BRING SOMEBODY FROM ABROAD INTO MY COUNTRY, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO SO.
AS, THUS, I HAVE GRACIOUSLY ISSUED THIS IMPERIAL EDICT, HEREBY TAKE MY GREAT OATH.
IN THE NAME OF THE CREATOR OF THE EARTH AND HEAVEN, THE ONE WHO FEEDS ALL CREATURES, AND IN THE NAME OF THE SEVEN MUSTAFAS AND OUR GREAT MESSENGER, AND IN THE NAME OF THE SWORD I PUT, NOBODY SHALL DO CONTRARY TO WHAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN, AS LONG AS THEY ARE OBEDIENT AND FAITHFUL TO MY COMMAND.

This Ahdnama, which brings independence and tolerance to the ones who are from another religion, belief and race, is written by Fatih Sultan Mehmet, after the conquest of Bosnia-Herzogovina, in May 28'th, 1463. The origin of the Ahdnama is at the Franciscan Catholic Church in Foznica, in Bosnia-Herzogovina. The Ahdnama has been recently arised and published by the Ministry of Culture, for the 700'th anniversary of the foundation of the State of Ottoman. The edict was issued the Sultan Mehmet II El Fatih to protect the basic rights of Bosnian people when he conquered Bosnia-Herzogovina in 1463. The original edict is still kept in Franciscan Monastery in the vicinity of Fojnica. The Ahdnama of Fatih Sultan Mehmet, oldest Human Rights Declaration known in history, written in 1463, it was announced. 326 years before 1789 French Revolution, 485 years before 1948 International Human Rights Declaration.