Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast

[nickols_k]

Originally Posted by andrewblow

Nichols (I wish I knew your christian name - I don't like referring to you as 'Nickols' - but that's entirely your deceision.)

My real name is Nick. I'm not christian!

You ask me to publish comments on where I think you have a wrong understanding of prophesy - or as I would say - where you are yourself phrophesying false information that is not substantiated by God's Word the Bible. I would like to restrict myself to your opening statement on the number < 666 > being 'the mark of the beast'. May I say I am not speaking on my own authority, or telling what I think- I am trying to get an overall and true understanding of what St John was describing in the book of his revelations from God.

I never wrote that 666 = mark of beast!

1. Rev. 1 vs 3 : We are encouraged to read and understand - which means not hiding away from the book, but reading it and letting God's Holy Spirit explain what He wants us to know about former times, current times and times to yet appear.
2. Rev 22 vs 18/19 - here is a strict warning not to add or take away anything from God's word. This, Nickols , is where I trhink I disagree most strongly with you, as some of your statements comprehensively contradict what the Bibke says - that's not on - God says you are wrong. Period.
3. Rev 13, 15-18. This is the only passage that mentions the numbers 666, but they appear to be numbers put by God onto the Devil AND ALL THOSE WHO FOLLOW HIM. The beast will ATTEMPT to forced this number on people - and when they receive it - they will worship the beast. You are right about buying and selling - all commerce will be withheld from those who refuse to have that sign. That sign is DEATH to all who wear it. It means great persecution to those who don't - but those will be the true believers who will be willing to even give up their lives so as NOT to wear the cursed sign of the beast. God promises great reward to those who resist this cursed temptation.
4. Rev 14, 9-11 tell us how God will judge those who wear the sign for all eternity. The sign shows they have joined the devil in rebellion against God and He will put them into the same place He prepares for the devil....eternal damnnation...... a horrendous thought.

666 is total num,ber of saved people from those who receive the mark of beast on any place of their body!!!

You say to my horror that you believe you have - in the future - already received the seal of the beast. Firstly , that is impossible - it has not happened yet - either in reality - or even in your fantasies. If you are of a mind to ACCEPT IT - then the Scriptures that I quote above......FROM GOD.....will show you are condemned to eternal damnation. That is GOd's promise and John's prophesy - which I accept above anything you may say.

Please understand that 666 is number of saved hosts which will NOT be thrown into lake of fire !!!

Friend Nichols - I believe that you have been deceived by 'THE GREAT DECEIVER - THE FATHER OF LIES' and whatever you experienced in your youth has - in your meditation since, been blown out of all proportion to the truth.

No! You are mistaken here! I did communicating with God-Father bit not with diablo!

Paul writes to the Thessalonians (4,16-18) That "The Lord himself shall decend from heaven with a shout - with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God: and the dead in Christ (all true Believers who have died) shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain (as true believers) shall be caught up together with them in the clouds and meet the Lord in the air: and so we shall for ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words".

So Nichols, true Believers don't meet the Beast / Devil, etc first - WE MEET JESUS CHRIST OUR SAVIOUR and the only time we see the beast is when we look down on him in triumph as he burns in hell. Rev 20 teaches us that Satan, the devil, the beast, the false prophet (yes - all of them) shall be cast into the lake of eternal fire......and all those who did not have their named written in the lambs Book of Life will join them for ever. I don't believ that God allowed anything to be written or even translated in a way to confuse us, certainly not to deceive us - so what we read is GOD'S WORD' and should be believed, first and formost and above everything else. Anything less is "Building on sand".

Pleae understand that any who was baptized and partaken did beloned to Jesus!!! But there are people who receive the prophecy about salvation through the FAITH!!! Since the day of receiving such prophecy they are not longer belonged to Jesus! persoanl prophecy always has largest priority than scriptures because whole bible is not for all!!!

That's strong talk - but it's what the Bible says and what I believe you should seriously be considering, because your current position of belief is extremely precarious.

I'm praying for you, N.K - where-ever you are - God knows.
Andrew
<andrewblow@hotmail.com>

Be bless!

[andrewblow]

Well Nick, I don't know where to go with you. After all you have written - all you have studied - you now tell us you are not a christian. This does tend to explain why you have such distorted and confused beliefs that are mixed in with the Biblical truths, but not in accord with them - and are mostly plain WRONG>

You are not a christian: How then can you be led by God's Holy spirit to know the truth in any detail and to have the temerity to argue with God. You are not arguing with castleStormer, or me - you are arguing with God and tellin Him he's got it all wrong. That's both ludicrous and dangerous.

YOU didn't say that 666 was the mark of the beast ?? NO - but God did, so let that one go, huh !

The 666 are those that are SAVED ?????????? RUBBISH. Totally unsubstatiated by Scripture, which teached the exact opposite.

You earlier said that you had not talked with the Holy Spirit, but by/with father God. That shows a total lack of understanding of the Triune God, where Father, Son and Spirit are all ONE, and yet all three have individual natures. The nature of God that is the world today is God's Spirit - He is in and with all believers - but you have said you are not a believer.........so what gives. ??

Nick, you are fabricating self-seeking geatness through false prophesies and rebellion against God. Please look again at the CORE SCRIPTURES- and at what God actually says there - not what you dreampt up one night.

Andrew

[CastleStormer]

WOW, Nick! What a bizarre post. Since you are not a Christian, let me try to appeal to your common sense as a rational, thinking human being. I want you to really THINK about what you wrote.

If the goal of the antichrist is to dominate and control the entire world, especially through the monetary system (from your Rev 13 quote)...why would he chose for himself the number of Christians who are going to be saved? Why would he have every subject in his kingdom marked with the number of victorious enemies? It makes no sense. Wouldn't he want to use a number that glorifies HIMSELF and not the mercy of a God he defies?

When you really think about what you wrote, it makes no sense.

Also, why do you think that ANYBODY who takes the mark will be saved, much less 666 of them? That is totally contrary to scripture.

And the worst news of all for you Nick is that there is no doubt in my mind that you have been communicating with a god. There are gods many and lords many. But unless you are a Christian, you don't have access to the one true God. That makes sense to me why you would say things like "the whole Bible is not for all". That is a total lie.

I pray that the true revelation of the King of King happens in your life NIck. Being a servant of God is awesome.

[nickols_k]

Originally Posted by andrewblow

Well Nick, I don't know where to go with you. After all you have written - all you have studied - you now tell us you are not a christian. This does tend to explain why you have such distorted and confused beliefs that are mixed in with the Biblical truths, but not in accord with them - and are mostly plain WRONG>

You are not a christian: How then can you be led by God's Holy spirit to know the truth in any detail and to have the temerity to argue with God. You are not arguing with castleStormer, or me - you are arguing with God and tellin Him he's got it all wrong. That's both ludicrous and dangerous.

YOU didn't say that 666 was the mark of the beast ?? NO - but God did, so let that one go, huh !
The 666 are those that are SAVED ?????????? RUBBISH. Totally unsubstatiated by Scripture, which teached the exact opposite.

Revelation 13:18""Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a men; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six
Where you have read that 666 is mark? Could you please reread bible carrefully?

You earlier said that you had not talked with the Holy Spirit, but by/with father God. That shows a total lack of understanding of the Triune God, where Father, Son and Spirit are all ONE, and yet all three have individual natures. The nature of God that is the world today is God's Spirit - He is in and with all believers - but you have said you are not a believer.........so what gives. ??

Trinity of God consusts from 3 different person!!! They are NOT divisible but they are not the same person! Trinity looks like aliance like family but not like 1 person!

Nick, you are fabricating self-seeking geatness through false prophesies and rebellion against God. Please look again at the CORE SCRIPTURES- and at what God actually says there - not what you dreampt up one night.

Andrew

I did communicating with God-Father!!! These words should be enough for you to believe me!

If the goal of the antichrist is to dominate and control the entire world, especially through the monetary system (from your Rev 13 quote)...why would he chose for himself the number of Christians who are going to be saved? Why would he have every subject in his kingdom marked with the number of victorious enemies? It makes no sense. Wouldn't he want to use a number that glorifies HIMSELF and not the mercy of a God he defies?

Those who are called by you as Christian would be correctly to calll SAINTS!!!
I dunno total number of saints who will be saved! I guess that all saint will be saved but their total number is unknown.

When you really think about what you wrote, it makes no sense.

Also, why do you think that ANYBODY who takes the mark will be saved, much less 666 of them? That is totally contrary to scripture.

Please understand that saints are sealed up with mark of Lamb!!! So please specify which mark do you mean!

And the worst news of all for you Nick is that there is no doubt in my mind that you have been communicating with a god. There are gods many and lords many. But unless you are a Christian, you don't have access to the one true God. That makes sense to me why you would say things like "the whole Bible is not for all". That is a total lie.

I pray that the true revelation of the King of King happens in your life NIck. Being a servant of God is awesome.

There are many Gods but God-Father is One!

Be bless!!!

[andrewblow]

Nick, I believe you are simply playing with words here. Rev 13.vs 16-18 says (The beast of vs 11) forced everybody - great and small (etc) to receive a mark on their right hand or forehead, so that no-one could buy or sell anything unless he had the mark, which is THE NAME OF THE BEAST OR THE NUMBER OF HIS NAME. This calls for wisdom - if anyone has insight, let him calculate THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST, for it is man's number and his number is 666".

Having read the Bible very carefully, I do not consider that this passage suggests anything other than the 'mark of the beast' is anything else than 666. If there is another clear interpretation, I'd be pleased to hear it - but so what - whatever the mark is - it is death to the wearer.

The Trinity. Jesus said "I and the Father are ONE. He who has seen me HAS SEEN THE FATHER" - You can't get much clearer than that. The Bible speaks of the SPIRIT OF JESUS that CAME FROM THE FATHER - so there you have all three in one concept.
Nick, The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are ONE GOD - but come to us in 3 different natures as He sees need. Ice, water and steam...and ONE, but 3 distinct natures. Paul says that "IN HIM (Jesus) was ALL THE FULLNESS OF THE GODHEAD". John says in Rev 1, 10 "On the Lord's day I WAS IN THE SPIRIT" - and yet we know that the whole revelation given to John was from jesus - and so I could go on with many examples. Your own statement on the Trinity is conflicting information - you contradict yourself.......one minute God is ONE, but then a family. I don't blame you for this - IT IS A MYSTERY. God says IT'S A MYSTERY, and only those who have the Holy Spirit in them (as true believers ) have any hope of understanding it without confusion. As you have stated you are not a christian, then you cannot expect to get very far into this mystery, without confusion.

Nick - of your own admittance you are not a child of God - a Christian, a true Believer, so WHO you actually communicated with I don't know. All I do know is that God does not deceive - and yet you have been deceived and confused and misled and for that, I cannot accept your witness regarding your communication with anyone you considered 'god' - because God does not tell lies.

Regards,
Andrew

[andrewblow]

Nick, let's be clear about this 'mark'. It is the devils way of differentiating between those who are God's people and those who have rebelled against God. Rev 14 9 says " if anyone worships the beast and his image AND RECEIVES HIS MARK on his forehead or hand, he to will drink of the wine OF GOD'S FURY .....he will be tormented with burning sulphur....for ever and ever....there is no rest day or night for anyone.......for anyone who receives the mark of his name". Not my words - Jesus'

Don't tell me there are different devilish 'marks' - they are one and the same thing - an abomiation to God for those who have rebelled.

I say this with respect to you who sincerely believe your work. I suggest that you consider repenting of the self-indulgent rubbish you have posted and try first to find GOD. Whoever comes to God through Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins "He will never cast out", but while you stay as an apostate person who never-the-less tries to convince others that you have heard from 'god' - you are doing no-one any favours - least of all yourself.....and this grieves me.

andrewblow@hotmail.com

[CastleStormer]

Nick, please read 2 Corinthians 11:4

"For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough."

You've been listening to another Jesus. It would behoove you to meet the real one before it is too late. His sheep hear HIS voice.