Most Important?

[CastleStormer]

Those who had faith followed Jesus.
Those who had religion killed Jesus.
That is the difference.

The story of Jesus has "Some" powerful techings for all of us. To try to put Bone, Meat and Skin on the Character of Mythical Jesus is most unfortunate. It will not get you to heaven.

If we could just admit it to being an ALLEGORY, it would last a lot longer and a lot of more people would benefit from it.

I think that the writings of Tolstoy, Dumas and other masters will around longer because people think about their writings as Allegory.

Bill

[andrewblow]

I've enjoyed the last 2 posts of yours I've read. I'm too tied up this week- but hope to re-join the boards next. Purposely simple- but right on the nail -
Best wishes.

Andrew

[CastleStormer]

But don't believe us deceived Christians. Believe Roman historians like Josephus who had NOTHING to gain by writing about the historic Jesus. And by the, Josephus also wrote about how his impact on the Roman Empire was astounding, as was Nero and Titus.

Castle,

I have read Flavius Josephus extensively. Not one time does he ever refer to Jesus as the Son of God. There are others who talk of a person with similar attributes to Jesus. The Bible is the first written story in which Jesus becomes the Son of God. This is where our disagreement comes from. The supernatural aspects of the Jesus Story are derived from
Mythology.

Keep in mind the the Jesus Story received minimal attention and had few believers. Until, some Three Hundred years passed from the life and death ot the alleged Jesus when Constantin needed something to control his subjects. Bingo, Christianity was born.

I hope that you noticed that I am on record that the Jesus story has some powerful teachings for all. It's unfortunate that we have to make it into a documentary with added huppla.

Bill

[CastleStormer]

"The story of Jesus has "Some" powerful techings for all of us. To try to put Bone, Meat and Skin on the Character of Mythical Jesus is most unfortunate. It will not get you to heaven." Your words verbatim.

First you say there is no bone, meat, and skin to this Jesus guy. Then you say that a person who lived at that time, was a reliable historian, and is well read by you never mentioned his divinity. You wanted bone, meat, and skin...you got bone, meat, and skin. Of course he wouldn't mention spiritual aspects of Jesus: Josephus was a Jew! They are still waiting for the Messiah. They're about to get one pretty soon.

C'mon Bill...admit it...he was a real person. What he really was is for us all to figure out. Don't want to believe? Good! Don't!

[CastleStormer]

"Keep in mind the the Jesus Story received minimal attention and had few believers. Until, some Three Hundred years passed from the life and death ot the alleged Jesus when Constantin needed something to control his subjects. Bingo, Christianity was born.?

Minimal attention??????? Better read your history again. Important Roman dignitaries like Felix, Festus, Herod, Tiberius, Nero, Galba, and Otho were VERY interested in the Jesus story. Nobody drew more attention and shook up the current religious machine like Jesus. If he didn't draw attention, they wouldn't have killed him. And they wouldn't have killed just about everybody who followed him at the time. After all, who did Nero blame the great fire of Rome on?