UN,good or evil?

[dak51]

As a US citizen I see the UN as a threat to nat. Sovengry,UN or a world gov would quickely take away freedoms,and who wants someone in france making dicisions about them? Anyway snice russia is the 2nd Largest Country and is still a Nuke power,Would you russians welcome the Blue heads,or like the few americans left who enjoy freedom use them for Target pratice,and what is Russia's stance on the UN? I never hear anything about it.

[Dr_Woland]

If you're worried it would "quickly take away freedoms" you are a little late coming to the party... the UN recently celebrated it's 50th birthday.

The UN was largely an American idea, by the way.

Which freedoms do you believe have been taken away during those 50 years? The freedom to torture and kill people? The freedom to commit mass-murder and walk free?

Why do you imagine the UN wants to compromise national sovereignty? Can you give us an example where you believe the UN has done that?

The UN is far from perfect, but it performs many useful roles. Who was it who sent in troops to Rwanda, to stop the mass-murders? Who arranged medical aid and shelter for the Kosovan refugees? Who was in the front line in Bosnia and Croatia, to stop the fighting? Who organises sanctions against the world's bandit regimes?

I somehow don't think you know very much about the work of the UN, or its reasons for existing.

The UN was founded after WW2, to be an agency which would prevent such a war ever happening again.

It's a very small world, and life is better for everyone on it - including the USA - if wars can be avoided, or at least minimised.

Dr W.

[artdirector1]

The United Nations was established to protect people against the atrocities that occured during WWII. With time, it has expanded its capabilities and sub-organizations to further protect the many freedoms individuals around the world seek and die for. Though they have not always been successful, the UN has certainly attempted to reach its goal. Other than the peacekeeping iniative in Bosnia, what other major roles has NATO accomplished that the UN couldn't or wouldn't?

[Matt_Dolan]

I remember another international organisation, formed after a different world war and also supported alot by America, who in the end did not join. The League of Nations failed to protect Haile Selassie and also failed to prevent the outbreak of the Second World War, without which there would be no UN. Dak51, are you perhaps identifying the UN and the US with inceidents such as the Korean War. Although officially it was a UN force in Korea, most people remember it as the US versus China. It is only now that the two Koreas are beginning to reconcile their differences and move towards reunification. Is there perhaps also a choice where the UN chooses to intervene? In Northern Ireland in the late sixties and early seventies there was atrocious violence and in many cases the British troops there to keep the peace were accused e.g. Bloody Sunday. Although this is on a less grand scale than such places as Rwanda, looking back does anyone think that a more neutral faction than the British Army should have been involved?

Matt

[mic692mb]

The way you people talk about the UN makes me wonder what color the sky is on your planet. UN peacekeepers are largely inneffectual, can be ordered out anytime the host country wishes, and are always ordered in by countries other than the one on whom these "soldiers" occupy. The USSR armed, trained, supplied, and encouraged North Korea to take over the South by force, and only because the Soviet delegate had walked out was the UN able to act to defend South Korea. China involved itself because General Douglas MacArthur was countermanding his orders from his commander in chief, the President of the United States, and threatening to take his army all the way to Moscow. To do that he would have had to go through China. China warned the UN that it would intervene and did so not to protect their fraternal NOrth Korean allies, but to protect themselves from the perceived threat from the UN and the US. IT is the two Koreas who have preserved the cold war across the 38th parallel and the NOrth that has always fomented trouble. Perhaps that is now coming to an end. But the UN was set up as the prototype one-world government and that is what it still aims to be. It is nobody's friend, and any good it did was incidental to its ultimate (and hidden) real mission. And if the US were to walk out of the UN, what then? Without all our $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ the UN would be a joke.

This letter is sent to you from the planet earth, where the sky is mostly blue when the weather is good.

[Dr_Woland]

>> its ultimate (and hidden) real mission <<

Which is? Please be as detailed as possible.

Dr W
(on planet Earth too)

[Dr_Woland]

Dear Dak51

>> Anyway snice russia is the 2nd Largest Country <<

Russia is the world's largest country. Who did YOU think was the largest?

By the way, your concerns over sovereignty would be easier to rationalise if you could actually spell it.

Dr W.