us and russia

[ahem]

Originally posted by eyeradi8


Ahem, what planet are you from?
Alaska was SOLD to the US for $7 million in 1867. Sold Ahem, not "leased".

Furthermore, Russia sold Alaska because
a) Russian treasury needed fresh funds
b) Alaska was considered a worthless chunk of land for Russia (big regret when the gold rush hit near the turn of the century)
c) Russia didn't want to experience the same territorial disputes with American settlers as Mexico did

Tell us Ahem, how did the Russian Navy "take part" in the American civil war? Don't answer too fast Ahem, as your likely retort about Russian ships in US ports will be punked in no time.

Discussing facts that any ten year old knows with a brain amputee, is not exactly feasible.

Originally posted by eyeradi8

I'm Russian-American, Sniper. Although according to Ahem, there's no need for me to hyphenate the title because somehow, because I'm not a cheerleader for the Soviet Union and tend to be rather pro-US, I've forfeited my membership to the ethnicity.

Ýõ ïèíäîñ, ñèäåë áû òû â ñâî¸ì Ïèíäîñòàíå äà ïîìàëêèâàë, ìîæåò çà óìíîãî ñîø¸ë áû.

[USMC_ReCoNSnIpeR]

ahem u'd be smarter if u didn't talk. here's a site buttheads.
http://www.mdonline.net/messageboard...sages/88.html.
There it will say what us has. Plus ummm if there was like a major war between usa and china who do u thiknk the rest of the world would side with. this is going toward countries like russia ukraine lafia and around there japan. And do u think nuclear weapons would be like allowed. PLus if it was a 1v1 war the Us would OWN. Also a factoid the US has over 100 military satilites. If there was a WW3 The us would pull out sick new like state of the art weapons and sh*T that u couldnt possibly imagine. Not really being mean to my country but i bet the goernment hides soo much weapons and secrets away from the public like Area 51 and stuff. But we have sooo many like top secret labs and facilities that have weapons and prototyps that are SOOOOOOO sick.


i don't like north korea do you? Nor china except for there food and fireworks

[ahem]

Originally posted by Voyager13b

Yakov,

We do agree on one thing. The AN94 is probably the best assault rifle ever made, though it is not really a system yet. Given a little time, it can not only be the best basic assault rifle, but it could also be the best all around personal weapons system.
Voyager

You are a diletant, what do you know about AN-94? Nothing! You've never even seen it, not to mention stripped or used it!

Originally posted by Voyager13b


Phlegm,

I don't know if you really buy half of the sh!t you post, but is is entertaining to read. I love the part about the moon landings not really happening. You must know things that even the KGB and Russian space agency were not aware of, as they validated the landings through "independent" means. Is Oliver Stone your favorite intellectual?

If by calling me "Phlegm" you wanted to "dazzle" me with your "brilliance" you failed for I don't know what it means, neither do I know who Oliver Stone is. Rosaviakosmos did not validate American landings, and in fact most employees tend to believe that "Moon landings" were a mock up. As a matter of fact German and French subsets of the European space agency tend to do the same. Thus Moon landings are debateable.

Originally posted by Voyager13b


Since you dismissed the US moon landings, you can then segue into bragging about the Russian space station effort (which was the fork in the road taken by the SU after the Politburo screwed up Russian plans to be first to the moon). You mentioned that Skylab fell down. Why did you fail to mention the fate of MIR?

Skylab fell down before it was completly completed because it could not stay in orbit, Mir was brought down on purpose after serving twice as long as it was supposed to.

Originally posted by Voyager13b


Your nationalist twitching is laughable. The current space station is a cooperative effort. Did anyone mention to you that the cold war is over? That Russia and the US are partners in space exploration? That when there is a station built on Mars, or in orbit around Mars, it will most likely be a joint Russian/US effort?

The Cold War, you mean the time when USA claimed openly that it will blast us into oblivion?
Currently USA is a partner in the new space station because Russia offered a deal wher USA would posses some control over the space station if it pays the most substantial part of the project. This offer was made after NASA offered to buy Mir. The only american components in the ISS are solar panels, it was first decided to use american control systems and computers, but after an incident a few years ago, when the space station nearly entered the atmosphere and was put back into orbit by a Russian cosmanavt manually, this idea was ditched and Russian hardware and control systems were installed. Recall that happening? ISS is a totaly Russian design which was supposed to replace Mir in the 90ies.

Originally posted by Voyager13b


How about aircraft. The SU built some fine aircraft, and Russia continues the trend. The East vs West comparison of fighters and bombers has been a favorite game to play over the past 50 years or so. Your remark about American aircraft not even coming close to Russian aircraft points to your blind nationalism, and is not shared by people with even a vague sense of reality. It is also NOT shared by Russian aircraft designers.

Are you sure it is my blind nationalism? Name me one current US fighter that can take off by itself without a CPU. And name me one Russian aircraft designer that thinks that American aircraft is better than ours. I can name several that thought/think otherwise e.g. Igor' Sikorskiy, Andrey Tupolev, Mihail Pogosyan, Mihail Simonov.

Originally posted by Voyager13b


The truth is that Russian fighter aircraft are currently among the best in the world. They are not, however, as you describe them in your remark. Russian bombers are, well, Russia has only one real strategic bomber, and it took 40 years to get it in the air. There are only a handful flying at present, and one just fell out of the sky last week.

Russian fighters are amongst the best in the world of fighters, but as actual aircraft they have no equals, to my knowledge. Tu-22M3 is also a strategic bomber, as is Tu-95/142.

Originally posted by Voyager13b


On the other hand, the SU did have a long string of firsts in space exploration. I don't need to make up stories that suggest that they never happened in order to make the effort of the US look better. I applaud the achievements of the SU and Russia in space. They were both remarkable and instrumental in setting the pace for the battle of ego that followed. It was one of the only battles fought during the cold war where everyone came out a winner, and human understanding was advanced as a result.

You can, if you so very much like, I have no objections.

Originally posted by Voyager13b


It's too bad that your nationalistic filter doesn't allow you to appreciate the efforts of anyone but Russians in the space/aeronautics game. You always have an excuse for why the US cannot take any credit for it's own achievements, yet you go overboard to make it seem that Russian developments are always so pure and perfect. Just because you think it, doesn't make it so.

Get over it.

Voyager

I do appriciate the effort, I'm very much fond of new European fighters, even though they are modelled on Russian ones. I also admire SR-71. I do not make any excusses about actual US achievements, I point out that some of those achievements are overbloated.

Originally posted by Voyager13b

Phlegm has a world view built upon national ego, hate, and wishful thinking. He creates "fact based fiction", believes it, and then prints it with the authority of an eyeball witness.

And what exactly is that national ego? "Fact based fiction", you are a hypocrite, Voyager13b.

[ahem]

Originally posted by USMC_ReCoNSnIpeR
are you serious america is not behind. oh yea thats why we're the last remaining superpower and the most powerfull and richest country in the world right yea.

Yes the richest country in the world, a country that can't even pay its levy to UN, a country with the biggest national debt in the world, a country where children shoot each other in schools, and it's normal.

Originally posted by USMC_ReCoNSnIpeR
our technology is the bets out there. ur country is sooooo poor. there are very very few things u cant get in america. and we make the most weapons next to u (russia). the truth is u could never take us. we would have the rest of the world on our side. Russia isnt a very good name. i mean im lithuania which was russia at one point and im russian and polish and german. if u ever came to america like to new york u'd see what the us is really like.
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No Russia is not a very good name, i much more preffer Rossija myself. And no, I'm not planning to go to New York any time soon, but I can tell that you have naver been to St. Petersburg or Moscow.

Originally posted by USMC_ReCoNSnIpeR
our technology is sooo supiror im myself i admiit im not too smart i am but i got to the best school in new jersey and i get b's. PLUS the whole world is watching you russia so u cant do sh*t. Your military(some) and computers and stealth are years behind. our tanks are the best in the world dont deny it or i'll shove a stick up ur a*s. no more wise a*s talk either ahem or w/e. and dont puit ur stupid little russian picture on each of ur replies takes up room. R U JOKING WE SELL INDIA EUROPE AND AFRICA MOST OF OUR WEAPONS. sometimes we give them away like to south korea, u stupid numbnut we dont use europes stuff r u joking. [/b]

Of course you do/it is/the are! What weapons exactly did you sell to India?

Originally posted by USMC_ReCoNSnIpeR

nice eyerad u american. at least this site has someone who knows what there talking about "ahem ahh stupid idiot". plus the m4a1 is the best. its used by many special forces around the world and thats because ITS THE BEST. so dont give me any stupid trash about ur pieces of tin u call guns. todays my birthday

By many special forces? US Rangers and Green Berets?
Happy birhtday by the way, I hope you will not grow up to be a typical American that is a brainless consumer.

Originally posted by USMC_ReCoNSnIpeR

ahem u'd be smarter if u didn't talk. here's a site buttheads.
http://www.mdonline.net/messageboard...sages/88.html.
There it will say what us has. Plus ummm if there was like a major war between usa and china who do u thiknk the rest of the world would side with. this is going toward countries like russia ukraine lafia and around there japan. And do u think nuclear weapons would be like allowed.

Smarter if I didn't talk? Can you actually read Russian? Your link doesn't work. The rest of the world would certainly not side with US, and who is going to ask US for permission to use nuclear weapons?

Originally posted by USMC_ReCoNSnIpeR

PLus if it was a 1v1 war the Us would OWN. Also a factoid the US has over 100 military satilites. If there was a WW3 The us would pull out sick new like state of the art weapons and sh*T that u couldnt possibly imagine. Not really being mean to my country but i bet the goernment hides soo much weapons and secrets away from the public like Area 51 and stuff. But we have sooo many like top secret labs and facilities that have weapons and prototyps that are SOOOOOOO sick.

The facts are, that USA troops are getting butchered in Iraq and Afganistan, USA will not win those wars, not to mention China. Of course US has a lot of secret weapons, it has a missile system on Mars and a space battlestaion orbiting Earth.

Originally posted by USMC_ReCoNSnIpeR

i don't like north korea do you? Nor china except for there food and fireworks

I like North Korea's military parades, and I don't like China.

Originally posted by USMC_ReCoNSnIpeR

i think the overall best fighter meaning the winner against any other aircraft is F-22. also don't give me any bs about neal armstrong not being the first person to the moon. Also even if the F-22 squardron hasnt come out. there military is probably using it in the war just to see what it can do in the real thing just not telling the public. The OCSW and the OICW look like sick weapons look it up. plus ahem the us has the most powerfull army in the world s shut up. don't deny or i'll smack you.

Yes, USA would throw $200,000,000 away just like that, for testing. As for your threats to smack me, I wouldn't make them if I were you. You don't know where I am, so you can't even try to carry your threat. Also you physically won't be able to smack me.

Originally posted by USMC_ReCoNSnIpeR

ok here's a vote thing. WHO DO U THINK IN ORDER THE TOP MOST MILITARLIY POWERFULL COUNTRIES?
(mine)
US- most efficent weapons. best technology. best trained.
Russia- power in numbers. nice airforce.
CHina-power in more numbers. thats it. weapons are from 70's and 60's old.
Israel-technology basically same as US. same weapons basically.
INdia- buy lots of other countries weapons. thats it (loser)

US efficient weapons, well that's something new.

Originally posted by USMC_ReCoNSnIpeR

thats the offical results cause i(SAM) made them. Yes i just turned 15 but i know my sh*t. my dad fought in vietnam and granddad in WW2. im not stupid. im american. OH
The Desert Warrior System will rule the battlefield.

At least I agree with you there you certainly do know your sh1t!

im not stupid. im american. I assure you, that statement will live forever!

[Arkasha]

Ahem is so full of shyit it overflows at the seams. Stop getting your news from bathroom walls.

[USMC_ReCoNSnIpeR]

Ahem the US pays 25% of the fee to the UN that's the most by far. and also what country doesnt have school shootings. Russia probably has alot more cause its so currupt. u cant deny that. PLUS we already won the afgahn and iraq war each was less then a month u idiot. we are facing more casualties rebuilding it and securing it then in the aciual war. only like 100 ppl died in the acual war. then like 200 died in the streets caused its a closed in area and u cant control that so shut up. Also dude if it werent for the Us that would would bacially suck. The US gives away BILLIONS in food,elecronics, and other supplies to india and othre poor places cause its our obligation u idiot. The Us has 70% of the worlds firepower. Also 50% of the money in the world is on the US. We got largest airforce,navy, in the world. best military technology. if we didn't we wouldnt be a super power.

[HATALbR]

A russian-american USMC sniper?

I'll need flat out 24 hours to recoop.

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